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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nskntingx03p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.246.161]) by nskntmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091022165233.NTPG93.nskntmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntingx03p.mx.bigpond.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:52:33 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc2-s66.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.161]) by nskntingx03p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091022165230.XKKV13457.nskntingx03p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc2-s66.bay0.hotmail.com>; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:52:30 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W27 ([64.4.48.62]) by bay0-omc2-s66.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:52:29 -0700 Message-ID: <BAY137-W279BD2901BED387B3170FAC5BE0@phx.gbl> Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA5429.740DBC50" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.75.35] From: "Terry Foenander" <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: <bob-anne@aapt.net.au>, <jackford@bigpond.net.au>, <lvignato@sjcny.edu> Cc: <dangiallo@aol.com>, <sgtteb1@live.com>, <unclestevo1@aol.com>, <dkirlin@accentamerican.net>, <dmcm2049@bigpond.net.au>, <mrjckmn@yahoo.com>, <reed578@aol.com>, <permelia53@yahoo.com>, <jalbertie@ebusinessdesign.com>, "Len Traynor" <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, <ragorecki9@verizon.net>, <maximoose@verizon.net>, <jsigler1950@yahoo.com>, <ghearn@esc.net.au>, <rogerlloyd77@hotmail.com>, <melanie.jackson@internode.on.net>, <mustangs4me@comcast.net>, <singary@aol.com>, <brimmels@comicsutra.com>, <thackmate@yahoo.com.au>, <lmj@psu.edu>, <microbe1@netconnect.com.au>, <socwsurgeons@earthlink.net>, <socwsurgeons@aol.com>, <rtaubman@rogers.com>, <softone@charter.net>, <ipx@adam.com.au>, <pkinsey@dos.state.fl.us>, <ccave@dos.state.fl.us>, <tynan18@bigpond.com>, <archives@dos.state.fl.us>, "Elizabeth Whipkey" <bonsmom@bbtel.com>, <tracks@internode.on.net>, <editor@simplyaustralia.net>, <russ@findagrave.com>, <aj@findagrave.com>, <katrina@findagrave.com>, <info@findagrave.com>, <robert@findagrave.com>, <deb@findagrave.com>, <mark@findagrave.com>, <kissane.scv@gmail.com>, <a.lange@clear.net.nz>, <jgodl2001@gmail.com>, <rwaldburg2@gmail.com>, <qppha@bigpond.com>, <waitemata@gmail.com>, <historian@avondale.org.nz>, <jcoski@moc.org>, <mscott@xtra.co.nz>, <troane@moc.org>, <megsyd1@optusnet.com.au>, <asmith@sos.ga.gov>, <rossbrooks@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au>, <mitchell.yockelson@nara.gov>, <mail@civilwarnews.com>, <pierrossi@hotmail.com>, <karlos59@optusnet.com.au>, "Barry Crompton" <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, "Caroline Hancock" <sailorette53@gmail.com>, "Edward Milligan" <emilligan@earthlink.net>, "Jeff Yuille" <darleith@optusnet.com.au>, <coxonmv@bigpond.com>, <bqkscv@yahoo.com>, <clmn2000@comcast.net>, <petersnn@petersnn.org>, <scottnewbernsr1@yahoo.com>, <noonang@aapt.net.au>, "Virginia Crocker" <crockers2@westnet.com.au>, <bushpig3@bigpond.com>, "Dave Sullivan" <dsulli7875@aol.com>, "Robert Krick" <jabrelk@verizon.net> Subject: X-TM-AS-Engine-Type: TMASE X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: TMAS_OE-5.5.0.1367-5.6.1016-16962007 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No-Matched White List x-has-been-detected_normal: 1 x-has-been-checked: 1 X-TrendMicro-AntispamAddin-Checked: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:52:27 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-TM-AS-Result: No--28.199-5.000-31 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2009 16:52:29.0707 (UTC) FILETIME=[0ABF65B0:01CA5338] X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150205.4AE08DD1.0013,ss=1,fgs=0 |
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This is addressed mainly to the hierarchy of the ACWRTQ, and especially those members who are listed as being co-researchers at the web site at http://www.acwv.info as I would like to clarify the actual sources of one or more items, and biographies shown there, some of which have obviously been copied from my own original research work, as shown at the FIND A GRAVE web site at www.findagrave.com These include the biographies of Civil War veterans Sydney Herbert Davies, John Ocho, Thomas Tallman Gamble, etc. A perfect example is in the biography of Sydney Herbert Davies, which has so blatantly been copied, then rehashed, with some passages twisted around to try and deceive others into believing that the work has been researched by Gray, but several distinctive factors, as well as omissions and glaring errors show that Gray never researched this from any original documentation, but copied the work, and then placed the copied biography of Davies at his own entry at FIND A GRAVE (go to www.findagrave.com, then search for Sydney Herbert Davies, and you will find two entries, mine, which was done at the beginning of this year, and Gray’s, which was done just this month; also, search for Gray’s deceptive entry for Stanley Herbert Davies, done this month, too, which has the very same biography for Sydney, but the first name altered to avoid detection of his use of my image of Davies), as well as his own web page at (http://www.acwv.info/1-files-veterans/D/davies-sydney-herbert/davies.htm) The photo of Davies itself was copied, then altered (either through PHOTOSHOP or some similar program) to try and deceive others into believing that it is from an original in the possession of Gray, which he will no doubt claim. I strongly urge the ACWRTQ hierarchy to request perusal of the original copy, if Gray does have it, and it will be seen to be an altered copy of my own photo, which I obtained from a source in New Zealand, which is the only one in possession of this image. I have also contacted the source, to enquire if Gray had ever acquired a copy from them, and if their copyright of the image was permitted to be used by Gray. I have no doubt about the answer to this query, which I will forward to the ACWRTQ, once received. I will also point out the glaring errors in the biography of Davies (and others that have been copied, at a later stage), to show that Gray could not possibly have researched this, but had copied my own work (also using New Zealand newspaper articles on Davies, easily obtained at the PAPERS PAST web site), and then, in a flimsy attempt to deceive, had changed some of the passages around, but, in this attempt, had made so many errors that it can be shown to have been copied, without permission. Please peruse Gray’s copy of the SH Davies photo, and advise if it is an original, but from the distinctive features, some of which are missing, and the alteration, it is clearly copied from my own image. [Gray's altered copy of the image is attached.] Please also, when responding to my query, do not omit any of the addressees, as there are a number who have a vested interest in knowing the answer to this query, having been provided with copies of my research work on Davies and others, some time ago. American authors, David M. Sullivan, and Robert E.L. Krick, especially, are aware of the original research on Davies, both of whom are amongst the addressees, and can provide conclusive evidence of my research, and the original copy of the full photo of Davies, to show that Gray’s copy is an altered version, and which was altered with an intention to deceive. I will point out the changes and alterations, in both the photo, and the biography, once I receive your kind response. Thank you for addressing this important matter, which is of grave concern to all researchers, as well as the FIND A GRAVE web site committee. I have no doubt that Gray, as he has done on so many past occasions, with a number of others, will deny and then claim it as all his own work, and will respond to everyone else, but omit my address. However, as several researchers, including Mr. Sullivan and Mr. Krick will show full evidence, the data was clearly copied, and the photo blatantly altered for deceptive purposes. Such actions have been detected far too many times in the past. The original photo of Davies will gladly be shown to the ACWRTQ committee to prove that Gray's copy was copied, then altered. I am aware that Gray was supported, in this alteration, by at least one other member of the ACWRTQ, as such deceptive alterations have occurred previously, as well. I also know that at least one other photo, on another of Gray's biographies, actually belongs to another researcher, and was used without permission, and, when confronted with this, by this researcher, Gray implied that he had acquired the original image some thirty years ago, locally! Yet we are all aware that Gray was never a resident locally until about 2000. Regards, Terry Foenander (in Australia). P.S. If an attempt to erase the offending pages is made, as has been done on previous occasions with other pages, I will gladly provide copies that have already been made of these same pages. |
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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nskntingx04p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.246.152]) by nskntmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091025100358.GJFF26025.nskntmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntingx04p.mx.bigpond.com>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:03:58 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc2-s57.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.152]) by nskntingx04p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091025100356.QGWE9761.nskntingx04p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc2-s57.bay0.hotmail.com>; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:03:56 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W3 ([64.4.48.38]) by bay0-omc2-s57.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 25 Oct 2009 03:03:56 -0700 Message-ID: <BAY137-W364D40E06CE469E52810FC5BB0@phx.gbl> Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA55BC.18EFC5E0" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.75.35] From: "Terry Foenander" <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: <bob-anne@aapt.net.au>, <jackford@bigpond.net.au>, <lvignato@sjcny.edu> Cc: <dangiallo@aol.com>, <sgtteb1@live.com>, <unclestevo1@aol.com>, <dkirlin@accentamerican.net>, <dmcm2049@bigpond.net.au>, <mrjckmn@yahoo.com>, <reed578@aol.com>, <permelia53@yahoo.com>, <jalbertie@ebusinessdesign.com>, "Len Traynor" <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, <ragorecki9@verizon.net>, <maximoose@verizon.net>, <jsigler1950@yahoo.com>, <ghearn@esc.net.au>, <rogerlloyd77@hotmail.com>, <melanie.jackson@internode.on.net>, <mustangs4me@comcast.net>, <singary@aol.com>, <brimmels@comicsutra.com>, <thackmate@yahoo.com.au>, <lmj@psu.edu>, <microbe1@netconnect.com.au>, <socwsurgeons@earthlink.net>, <socwsurgeons@aol.com>, <rtaubman@rogers.com>, <softone@charter.net>, <ipx@adam.com.au>, <pkinsey@dos.state.fl.us>, <ccave@dos.state.fl.us>, <tynan18@bigpond.com>, <archives@dos.state.fl.us>, "Elizabeth Whipkey" <bonsmom@bbtel.com>, <tracks@internode.on.net>, <editor@simplyaustralia.net>, <russ@findagrave.com>, <aj@findagrave.com>, <katrina@findagrave.com>, <info@findagrave.com>, <robert@findagrave.com>, <deb@findagrave.com>, <mark@findagrave.com>, <kissane.scv@gmail.com>, <a.lange@clear.net.nz>, <jgodl2001@gmail.com>, <rwaldburg2@gmail.com>, <qppha@bigpond.com>, <waitemata@gmail.com>, <historian@avondale.org.nz>, <jcoski@moc.org>, <mscott@xtra.co.nz>, <troane@moc.org>, <megsyd1@optusnet.com.au>, <asmith@sos.ga.gov>, <rossbrooks@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au>, <mitchell.yockelson@nara.gov>, <mail@civilwarnews.com>, <pierrossi@hotmail.com>, <karlos59@optusnet.com.au>, "Barry Crompton" <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, "Caroline Hancock" <sailorette53@gmail.com>, "Edward Milligan" <emilligan@earthlink.net>, "Jeff Yuille" <darleith@optusnet.com.au>, <coxonmv@bigpond.com>, <bqkscv@yahoo.com>, <clmn2000@comcast.net>, <petersnn@petersnn.org>, <scottnewbernsr1@yahoo.com>, <noonang@aapt.net.au>, "Virginia Crocker" <crockers2@westnet.com.au>, <bushpig3@bigpond.com>, "Dave Sullivan" <dsulli7875@aol.com>, "Robert Krick" <jabrelk@verizon.net> Subject: The uniformed Edward Redmore Heald photo. Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:03:55 +0000 X-TM-AS-Engine-Type: TMASE X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: TMAS_OE-5.5.0.1367-5.6.1016-16968003 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No-Matched White List x-has-been-detected_normal: 1 x-has-been-checked: 1 Importance: Normal X-TrendMicro-AntispamAddin-Checked: 1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <200910221309.BSR28787@mx1.comicsutra.com> X-TM-AS-Result: No--5.501-5.000-31 References: <200910221309.BSR28787@mx1.comicsutra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2009 10:03:56.0143 (UTC) FILETIME=[76C39FF0:01CA555A] X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150203.4AE4228D.00E3,ss=1,fgs=0 |
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now interesting to note that, after my joint message was sent out to
everyone, and after the following passages were included in that
message, the photo that I was referring to, of Confederate Navy
carpenter, Edward Redmore Heald, has now been removed: |
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I would strongly urge anyone who wants
to read the correct and true account of Sydney Herbert Davies' life
and military service to await the forthcoming published account,
which will appear in a future issue of the journal of the Company of
Military Historians. It would be totally unwise to rely on copied accounts, shown on the Internet at www.acwv.info and elsewhere, as these are based purely on passages copied from the Internet, and even newspaper web sites (such as PAPERS PAST, a New Zealand web site). As we all know, not all newspapers are highly accurate, and some of the details of Davies' Confederate service, as shown in these newspapers, and then copied by Gray for his web site are totally incorrect. Before I wrote up my fully documented account for the CMH journal, I ascertained many facts and details from official documentation, as well as in discussions with highly regarded Confederate military service historian, Mr. Robert E. L. Krick. The results of such thorough research can be viewed in the reasonably lengthy article on Davies. When this article appears, and the correct and unaltered photo of Davies shown with his group, it will be noted how different this verified account is, from that of Gray's. As we all know, when one copies off the Internet, one suffers the eventual consequences of such an action. The accounts of other veterans, such as CSS ALABAMA sailor, Juan Ochoa, Union Cavalry major Thomas Tallman Gamble, Union soldier Michael Dunning, and several others have also been properly researched (and such research is still continuing, as more details are constantly discovered). However, as will also be shown, there are a large number of other veterans that Gray is obviously still unaware of, since he is unable to know that these others, whose biographies have been researched, do not have their details exposed for him to plagiarise, all over the Internet. This includes one Confederate veteran who wrote what is known to be the first journal account of his service (for this particular service) which is known to exist. It predates other accounts by those who also served in the same service, by several months, and contains details not shown elsewhere. Regards, Terry. |
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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nschwingx02p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.246.154]) by nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091030195005.FMSD28093.nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwingx02p.mx.bigpond.com>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:50:05 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc2-s59.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.154]) by nschwingx02p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091030195004.MMNV15992.nschwingx02p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc2-s59.bay0.hotmail.com>; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:50:04 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W3 ([64.4.48.38]) by bay0-omc2-s59.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:50:03 -0700 Message-ID: <BAY137-W34647610690E4185F2D4EC5B60@phx.gbl> Return-Path: tfoenander@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a2ff9574-14a2-4e57-bde3-c62437754142_" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.75.35] From: Terry Foenander <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: Len Traynor <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, <pkinsey@dos.state.fl.us>, <ccave@dos.state.fl.us>, <tynan18@bigpond.com>, <archives@dos.state.fl.us>, Elizabeth Whipkey <bonsmom@bbtel.com>, <russ@findagrave.com>, <aj@findagrave.com>, <katrina@findagrave.com>, <info@findagrave.com>, <robert@findagrave.com>, <deb@findagrave.com>, <mark@findagrave.com>, <kissane.scv@gmail.com>, <jgodl2001@gmail.com>, <rwaldburg2@gmail.com>, <asmith@sos.ga.gov>, <rossbrooks@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au>, <mitchell.yockelson@nara.gov>, <mail@civilwarnews.com>, <pierrossi@hotmail.com>, Barry Crompton <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, Caroline Hancock <sailorette53@gmail.com>, Edward Milligan <emilligan@earthlink.net>, Jeff Yuille <darleith@optusnet.com.au>, <scottnewbernsr1@yahoo.com>, <noonang@aapt.net.au>, Virginia Crocker <crockers2@westnet.com.au>, <bushpig3@bigpond.com>, Dave Sullivan <dsulli7875@aol.com>, Robert Krick <jabrelk@verizon.net> CC: <bob-anne@aapt.net.au>, <jackford@bigpond.net.au> Subject: New policy implemented by the Veterans Administration. Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:50:03 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200910252112.GLV21551@mx1.comicsutra.com> References: <200910252112.GLV21551@mx1.comicsutra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2009 19:50:03.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C57AEE0:01CA599A] X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150205.4AEB436D.00A5,ss=1,fgs=0 |
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The Veterans Administration, in Washington, recently sent me a letter advising that a new policy has been implemented, as of July 1, 2009, to ensure that the system is not abused by charlatans posing as genuine researchers, in attempting to apply for grave markers (this is not the actual reason given for this policy change, but there is no doubt, whatsoever). This policy is, according to the letter sent me,
“based on the requirements of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 38.632, ‘Headstone and Marker Application Process,’ which became effective on July 1, 2009. Federal law defines ‘applicant’ for purposes of applying for a Government-furnished headstone or marker as the decedent’s next-of-kin (NOK); a person authorized in writing by the NOK; or a personal representative authorized in writing by the decedent. The following ordered list defines the NOK for the purpose of determining who may apply for a headstone or marker: (a) Surviving Spouse (including common law); (b) Children by age (18 and older); (c) Parents – biological, adoptive, step, foster; (d) Brothers/Sisters (including half, step); (e) Grandparents; (f) Grandchildren; (g) Uncles/Aunts; (h) Nieces/Nephews; (i) Cousins; and (j) Other lineal descendants.”
This is long overdue, and should have been implemented years ago. However, it is obvious that it is aimed to prevent the acquisition of grave markers by those persons who would not only pass around fake and altered documents, as well as use false names to acquire data, but who would also apply for such markers without indulging in any research whatsoever. I have been making complaints to the VA for years about the abuse of the system, and about those who would milk the system for all it is worth, and I am glad that some action has now finally been taken to prevent future abuse. No doubt there are those who have the dubious distinction of having such policies implemented because of their actions, but who will continue other similar actions for as long as they know that they can get away with it, unfortunately.
Regards, Terry. |
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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nskntingx05p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.246.170]) by nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091103185559.TEJC1310.nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntingx05p.mx.bigpond.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:55:59 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc2-s34.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.170]) by nskntingx05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091103185555.BGMP5204.nskntingx05p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc2-s34.bay0.hotmail.com>; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:55:55 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W24 ([64.4.48.59]) by bay0-omc2-s34.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:55:54 -0800 Message-ID: <BAY137-W247139266AE83EB349991BC5B20@phx.gbl> Return-Path: tfoenander@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_ad0daf07-dbc0-4db7-8bcf-74142871a342_" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.70.81] From: Terry Foenander <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: Len Traynor <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, <tynan18@bigpond.com>, Elizabeth Whipkey <bonsmom@bbtel.com>, <russ@findagrave.com>, <aj@findagrave.com>, <katrina@findagrave.com>, <info@findagrave.com>, <robert@findagrave.com>, <deb@findagrave.com>, <mark@findagrave.com>, <kissane.scv@gmail.com>, <rossbrooks@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au>, Barry Crompton <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, Caroline Hancock <sailorette53@gmail.com>, Edward Milligan <emilligan@earthlink.net>, Jeff Yuille <darleith@optusnet.com.au>, <scottnewbernsr1@yahoo.com>, <noonang@aapt.net.au>, Virginia Crocker <crockers2@westnet.com.au>, <bushpig3@bigpond.com>, Dave Sullivan <dsulli7875@aol.com>, Robert Krick <jabrelk@verizon.net>, <bob-anne@aapt.net.au>, <jackford@bigpond.net.au>, <jamesmgray@bigpond.com>, <gray.power@bigpond.com> Subject: Bissell Grave Marker Errors. Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:55:54 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <gZu6WY9Iu00025257@bay0-omc2-s59.bay0.hotmail.com> References: <gZu6WY9Iu00025257@bay0-omc2-s59.bay0.hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2009 18:55:54.0429 (UTC) FILETIME=[45434ED0:01CA5CB7] X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150202.4AF07CBE.009B,ss=1,pt=SMP_3_AMIR10528,fgs=0 |
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Anyone who has taken the trouble to do
proper research on Civil War Naval officer, Samuel Sherwood Bissell,
who is buried at Mount Morgan cemetery, in Queensland, will
immediately note that his grave marker [see attached image from FIND
A GRAVE] contains a couple of important errors, including the fact
that Bissell was never an Ensign
aboard the USS ARIZONA, at all. He was appointed to this
position long after he had left the vessel, and was actually an
Ensign aboard the USS AGAWAM and the USS SHENANDOAH. The other
error can easily be ascertained by perusing his death certificate
details, and especially noting his full age, at the time of his
death. No doubt the person or persons from the group mentioned on
the grave marker, who acquired the marker did not bother with
researching the facts. It is quite sad to think that there are a
number of grave makers, acquired by this group, which contain errors
and some are not even for persons who served in the Civil War, but
were assumed to have done so. It seems that proper and thorough
research is not a matter of any importance to some. Hopefully the new policy of the Veterans Administration will prevent such future incompetence, although I have no doubt that such incompetence will continue in other areas. Regards, Terry. |
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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nschwingx01p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.246.167]) by nschwmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091104192807.VMIW22839.nschwmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwingx01p.mx.bigpond.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:28:07 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc2-s31.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.167]) by nschwingx01p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091104192805.SAYU6775.nschwingx01p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc2-s31.bay0.hotmail.com>; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:28:05 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W2 ([64.4.48.37]) by bay0-omc2-s31.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:28:03 -0800 Message-ID: <BAY137-W2402723E7D8842EF314F3C5B10@phx.gbl> Return-Path: tfoenander@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_91ed18a3-1712-4f6f-8fd3-f537e7a0523a_" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.92.57] From: Terry Foenander <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: Barry Crompton <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, <bob-anne@aapt.net.au>, <bushpig3@bigpond.com>, Virginia Crocker <crockers2@westnet.com.au>, Caroline Hancock <sailorette53@gmail.com>, Jeff Yuille <darleith@optusnet.com.au>, Dave Sullivan <dsulli7875@aol.com>, Edward Milligan <emilligan@earthlink.net>, <gray.power@bigpond.com>, Amy Hedrick <amylyn@btconline.net>, Robert Krick <jabrelk@verizon.net>, <kissane.scv@gmail.com>, Len Traynor <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, <rwaldburg2@gmail.com>, <jamesmgray@bigpond.com> Subject: Laughable proposal by Gray. Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:28:02 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <E3FCC0DE3A684BA6A75DD948AC94F946@CompaqPC> References: <E3FCC0DE3A684BA6A75DD948AC94F946@CompaqPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2009 19:28:03.0394 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED6DC220:01CA5D84] |
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Folks, Note the laughable and inaccurate message sent by Gray, some months ago, shown below. It shows how much he knows about an organisation that he himself is supposed to be a member of, as even a simpleton like myself knows that the SCV already has policies and documents to cover such contingencies. They probably threw his rubbish in the bin, where it belonged. Shermeldene knew him well indeed! Regards, Terry.
Mr. Sewell;
I would like to propose a project that could be undertaken
by SCV Headquarters that would provide great publicity for
SCV and would at the same time greatly benefit all
descendants of Confederate descendants; be they descendants
of Army, Marine, or Navy Confederate personnel.
The United States government provides so called
"Presidential Certificates" signed by the president of the
United States honouring the service of individuals who
served honourably with the Union during the War Between the
States.
Unfortunately, Confederate descendants are not eligible for
these certificates; and I have been asked, via the Internet
by numerous descendants, why is there no similar
certificates for their ancestors.
I would like to propose an SCV program that would issue
"Confederate Service Certificates", similar to those for
Union descendants, signed by the Executive Director on
behalf of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and its original
founding organization, honouring Confederate Veterans who
served the south and the Confederacy, that could be passed
on to succeeding Confederate descendants of a family.
It would add "a great deal of credibility and publicity" to
SCV, would be treasured by all who received them and could
draw in hundreds of new members.
Everyone I have talked to both here, in the U.S. and in
Europe have thought it would be a splendid thing to do.
Would you and the Executive Committee consider implementing
such a program?
Sincerely,
James Gray
SCV
Brisbane, Australia
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Anyone who just takes a glance at the
attached documents can immediately note the inconsistencies which
indicates that at least one of these items smells fishy. Even a
simpleton like myself could see that they indicate something
suspicious. Unfortunately, on attempting to contact both
institutions, they seem to be no longer in operation. Note especially the dates, then examine closely the full text, and you will see what I am getting at. Regards, Terry. |
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Dear Recipients, Further to Mr. Ford's message to all of you, I wish to advise that it is common sense to all decent researchers that, when you place service details on a gravestone, you include the final service record, in other words, a person's final rank, and the final vessel or regiment that he/she served with. Asking Gray to explain his error would be like asking a landlubber for data on how to tack a vessel, or weigh anchor. In other words, as is usual with this man, he just assumes and guesses, and always seems to get it wrong. I challenge one or all of the members of the ACWRTQ to show us all exactly where it is stated that one should use the name of the first ship, or the one of most importance. Furthermore, if Gray took the trouble to look through Bissell's record, he would have noted that his most important service was aboard the USS JUNIATA, on which he was heavily involved in the two campaigns against Fort Fisher. Furthermore, Bissell was not captured aboard the USS ARIZONA, but while he was ashore, on a recce patrol, and failed to obey the orders of the vessel's commander. Even while aboard the USS AGAWAM, Bissell was involved in some firefights on the James River, much more than he was ever involved in while on the USS ARIZONA. If Gray took the trouble to read the court martial details of some of the officers of the ARIZONA, he would have noted that the vessel was involved in pillaging and looting several plantations along the Mississippi and her tributaries. If this is called important service, then Gray must assume that looting is of major importance. As is usual with Gray, he always twists the facts around to suit his own version of history. The ARIZONA was not the most important vessel Bissell was on, and he was never an ensign aboard this vessel, and, as has now been pointed out, correctly by an American researcher, Bissell was never an Ensign in the United States Navy. THere is a vast difference between being an Ensign, and holding the volunteer rating of an acting ensign. No doubt Gray will attempt to try and dupe his group, once more, and refer to me in all manner of names, but I will continue to point out that Gray is not, and never was, a proper researcher, and just stumbles his way through all the work that many other researchers do, yet continues to get it all wrong. If one wants to try and spin some tale about a person's final rank, and his first service needing to be shown, then, as an example, we would have Lieutenant General Nathan Bedford Forrest being shown as being in the 7th Tennessee Cavalry (his first unit as a private), when the actual fact was that he headed the entire cavalry command of the ARmy of Tennessee, as Lieutenant General. As I stated in earlier messages to Dr. Ford, it is common sense, and totally logical to have the final rank, and final command he served in, shown. But, if the ACWRTQ want to continue to listen to the fabrications and twisted facts spun by Gray,then they can continue believing in a history of the Civil War that never occurred. Finally, if the grave marker had left out the inscription of the ACWRTQ, and instead replaced it with the names of the other ships that Bissell had served on, then I would not have correctly assumed that it was the ACWRTQ that was responsible for the so called "research" that shows Bissell as ENSIGN aboard the USS ARIZONA, when he was clearly not, and never was in that position. In future, as I have stated on so many occasions before, it would be best for research to be performed by proper researchers and not those who want to make so many incorrect assumptions, as well as pass around altered documents. There are at least two other similar documents being circulated, one of which has already been confirmed as a fake, and the other we are unable to investigate further, because the facility no longer exists. Regards, Terry. P.S. Let me repeat once more, and I urge everyone to check the documentation for these facts, that Bissell was never an Ensign on the USS ARIZONA, and he was never an Ensign at all. And, to top it all of, the USS ARIZONA may not have even been the first vessel he served on, as there is evidence that he served at another facility or vessel. Despite having some of the documentation (which I passed on to him, I might add, and thankfully, not everything was sent), Gray still seems as lost as he has been since birth. From: jackford@bigpond.net.au To: tfoenander@hotmail.com Subject: Bissell's grave plaque at Mt Morgan Cemetery, Qld Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:07:52 +1000
Dear All
Last week you received an email from Terry Foenander in
which he disputes some of the details of the marker that has
been placed in 2007 on the grave of Civil War veteran Samuel
Bissell at Mt Morgan Cemetery in Queensland. The American
Civil War Round Table of Queensland (ACWRTQ)
is
responding to Terry's email as it is the group that Terry
has mentioned unfavourably in his email, specifically
stating that "persons from the group mentioned on the grave
marker, who acquired the marker did not bother with
researching the facts. It is quite sad to think that there
are a number of grave makers, acquired by this group, which
contain errors".
As the current president of the American Civil War Round
Table of Queensland (ACWRTQ) is recovering from a very
serious hospital operation, I have decided to respond to the
issues raised by Terry Foenander.
I've asked Jim Grey, who organised this grave marker, to
explain the wording used for the plaque. Here is his reply:-
"When you determine the wording for a plaque you always
include the highest rank the veteran attained; in the
case of Bissell, it was that of an Ensign.
Likewise, you can't include ALL the ships a veteran
served on, so you normally use the name of the FIRST
ship he served on or the one of most importance. Again,
in Bissell's case his
FIRST active duty was aboard the USS Arizona and
it was aboard the Arizona he was captured and imprisoned
at Vicksburg. For that reason the USS Arizona was used.
Though he achieved his Ensign rating aboard the Agawam,
the ship was of no importance during Bissell's
servitude; the Arizona was, as both it and Bissell saw
heavy action together and it was aboard the Arizona that
Bissell was captured.
The plaque does NOT
say he was an Ensign aboard the USS Arizona; only that
he attained the rank of Ensign and that his first and
most important ship assignment was the USS Arizona."
I hope that this clarifies the matter.
Yours sincerely
Dr. Jack Ford
former ACWRTQ President
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Just so everyone gets the picture of
exactly what has been going on, in relation to Gray's so called
"research", one needs to see a major example of how he works,
without doing any proper perusal of documents, or checking the
facts. The following web site goes through the entire sequence of
events, from 2006, until just a couple of months ago, when it was
finally shown that an altered document was passed around by Gray,
and was even used to obtain a grave marker, which was, thankfully
returned to the VA in Washington, after the document was exposed as
a forgery: http://www.glynngen.com/history/people/farmer1/ Although the document was forged by an employee of the Georgia Archives, it is rather suspicious that this forgery occurred after Gray had contacted the Department, and pushed his line that the Robert Farmer who was born in Austraia was the same person who served in the Georgia Regiment. It was not the same person, and we already had a copy of the original unaltered document, at the time that I was first sent a copy of the altered document. I immediately noticed that it was a fake, which was easily seen by the two different handwritten inscriptions on the fake copy. If I had not spotted this fake, no doubt the grave marker would have already been installed at the grave of the Australian born person, as just about everybody believed that Gray had found the "final proof" of what he had been insisting since 2006. It is no wonder that Gray often tries to hide his so called research from me, as he knows I will investigate further, especially knowing his propensity to constantly stuff things up. I might also add that at least two other documents are still being passed around, by Gray, though one has already been proven to be faked, and the other we are unable to make final confirmaton, due to the fact that the facility named on the document no longer exists. There are many other such doubtful items and statements, quite a number of which have been proven to be false or fabrications, thanks to our efforts in contacting persons or facilities named, and other forms of verification. Another example is the photo Gray claims to have obtained thirty years ago, locally, of Edward Redmore Heald in uniform. I was able to show how false this was, since we knew that Gray was never in Australia until 2000, and could not have been here thirty years ago. The photo used was obviously either from a CD ROM of our material, or at least copied off the Internet or a publication. If someone took the initiative of requesting Gray to show his copy of this photo, they will no doubt see that it is a printed copy taken from a previously published source, as was his altered copy of the photo of Sydney Herbert Davies. The photo of Davies can clearly be seen to copied and altered, because there are distinctive features in the original, which I have in my possession, and which is a full photo of Davies and other members of the group. As I have stated all along, and which I believe is the best form of investigation in all these fabrications, it is best to go to the original sources, and not get a statement from Gray, because, as we all know, a crook will not readily admit to his nefarious activities. Common sense would suggest that if anyone wants to know the truth, perusal of documents and the original articles should take place. It is just no good asking Gray to explain why the Bissell marker is incorrect, especially since he knows practically nothing about common procedures, or the Civil War. Anyone who is capable of misidentifying photos of both General Phil Sheridan, and General Ulysses Grant, as well as makes the rather absurd assumption that Vicksburg is in the state of Virginia (yet Gray was born in the U.S. and should know better), obviously knows very little about many historical matters. Even a Sons of Confederate Veterans commander, in the U.S., had insisted, in a message to his many compatriots and several researchers, when referring to Gray's so called research, that nothing of Gray's biographies is to be relied upon. Anyone who continues to believe what Gray spins, has obviously got to be the most gullible person around. Of course he is not going to admit his many, many errors and will continue to try to explain everything away, in his usual flimsy manner. Yet everytime he makes such an explanation, it can immediately be seen to be another absurdity. The Bissell research is much more complex, and much more involved. Gray may have what we sent him in 2005, but this does not include all that we have on Bissell, and thus the major errors on the grave marker. No amount of stumbling along with a ridiculous explanation can avoid the fact that there are mistakes. ANd there are many other such markers, obtained by Gray and the ACWRTQ, with numerous errors, some of which have already upset some of the descendants, (even descendants as far away as Canada and in the U.S.) who were never contacted by the ACWRTQ prior to their acquiring these grave markers, or without any proper research, whatsoever. Meanwhile, I will continue to diligently expose these fabrications, and fraudulent activities, for what they are. Regards, Terry. |
| 13th November 2009 |
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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nskntingx01p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.190.160]) by nskntmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091113075821.JNUT93.nskntmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntingx01p.mx.bigpond.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:58:21 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.160]) by nskntingx01p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091113075820.EJLO7696.nskntingx01p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:58:20 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W4 ([65.54.190.189]) by bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:58:18 -0800 Message-ID: <BAY137-W42C31FC84A9A3E3602018C5A80@phx.gbl> Return-Path: tfoenander@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0e5d58e9-aeb7-4f22-aae4-ba1b1ecf0316_" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.92.57] From: Terry Foenander <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: Len Traynor <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, <tynan18@bigpond.com>, <russ@findagrave.com>, <aj@findagrave.com>, <katrina@findagrave.com>, <info@findagrave.com>, <robert@findagrave.com>, <deb@findagrave.com>, <mark@findagrave.com>, <kissane.scv@gmail.com>, <rossbrooks@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au>, Barry Crompton <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, Edward Milligan <emilligan@earthlink.net>, Jeff Yuille <darleith@optusnet.com.au>, <noonang@aapt.net.au>, Virginia Crocker <crockers2@westnet.com.au>, <bushpig3@bigpond.com>, Dave Sullivan <dsulli7875@aol.com>, Robert Krick <jabrelk@verizon.net>, <bob-anne@aapt.net.au>, <jackford@bigpond.net.au>, <jamesmgray@bigpond.com>, <gray.power@bigpond.com> Subject: FW: Gray's bio of Bissell Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:58:19 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <BAY137-W9CB4F12571B9861DC6727C5A90@phx.gbl> References: <BAY137-W9CB4F12571B9861DC6727C5A90@phx.gbl> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2009 07:58:18.0870 (UTC) FILETIME=[100C4960:01CA6437] X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150205.4AFD119D.0088,ss=1,fgs=0 |
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Appended below is the web site showing
how inaccurate his research has been. To such an extent that he
cannot even get the final (and most important vessel) that Bissell
was upon, correctly spelt. Proper research would have shown that
Bissell was aboard this vessel in his final months in the Naval
service, and that the vessel was quite intensely involved in the two
Fort Fisher campaigns. Note also, amongst the sources listed, is
another member of the ACWRTQ, and this group are indicated to have
been responsible for acquiring the marker which contains the
incorrectly inscribed data. There are several other important
mistakes, but it is obvious that no one in Queensland cares about
correct data. Regards, Terry. |
| 14 November 2009 |
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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nschwingx05p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.190.139]) by nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091113190307.SEJD28093.nschwmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwingx05p.mx.bigpond.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:03:07 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s1.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.139]) by nschwingx05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091113190306.VOYL17282.nschwingx05p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc3-s1.bay0.hotmail.com>; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:03:06 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W26 ([65.54.190.189]) by bay0-omc3-s1.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:03:05 -0800 Message-ID: <BAY137-W26E683E7268818D6D21C0EC5A80@phx.gbl> Return-Path: tfoenander@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_33d87c7e-e300-4259-9a11-15ed0e0bce7e_" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.92.57] From: Terry Foenander <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: Len Traynor <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, <tynan18@bigpond.com>, <russ@findagrave.com>, <aj@findagrave.com>, <katrina@findagrave.com>, <info@findagrave.com>, <robert@findagrave.com>, <deb@findagrave.com>, <mark@findagrave.com>, <kissane.scv@gmail.com>, <rossbrooks@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au>, Barry Crompton <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, Edward Milligan <emilligan@earthlink.net>, Jeff Yuille <darleith@optusnet.com.au>, <noonang@aapt.net.au>, Virginia Crocker <crockers2@westnet.com.au>, <bushpig3@bigpond.com>, Dave Sullivan <dsulli7875@aol.com>, Robert Krick <jabrelk@verizon.net>, <bob-anne@aapt.net.au>, <jackford@bigpond.net.au>, <jamesmgray@bigpond.com>, <gray.power@bigpond.com> Subject: SYdney Herbert Davies photo. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:03:05 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2009 19:03:05.0460 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE4EEB40:01CA6493] X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150204.4AFDAD6B.0024,ss=1,fgs=0 |
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A letter received from the one and only
source in New Zealand, from which my copy of the photograph of
Imperial Allied Veterans of New Zealand group photo, was acquired
about a year ago, and from which a detail of Sydney Herbert Davies
was scanned and placed at FIND A GRAVE, has now confirmed what I
knew all along, namely that the copy made by Gray and used at his
site and which he had previously also used at his two entries at
FIND A GRAVE was copied from mine, that is still shown there. The
poor attempt to remove the white line at the bottom of my photo, and
to try and darken it, had, in the process by Gray, removed all trace
of a third medal worn by Davies. The administrative staff of FIND
A GRAVE did the right thing by deleting Gray's flimsy attempt at
copying and plagiarising my own work. However, he still copies the
work of others and uses it at a number of sites on the Internet, and
elsewhere, and these activities are obviously condoned by those who
believe his fabrications, without bothering to further investigate
these activities. Regards, Terry. |
| 23 November 2009 |
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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nskntingx04p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.190.99]) by nskntmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091123071105.DAWT26025.nskntmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntingx04p.mx.bigpond.com>; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:11:05 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc2-s24.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.99]) by nskntingx04p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091123071104.CUGP10411.nskntingx04p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc2-s24.bay0.hotmail.com>; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:11:04 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W7 ([65.54.190.125]) by bay0-omc2-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:11:03 -0800 Message-ID: <BAY137-W7990587153478E14C1CD7C59E0@phx.gbl> Return-Path: tfoenander@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6d29bd74-83a2-4043-8eaa-ebc8dc346296_" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.92.57] From: Terry Foenander <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: <jackford@bigpond.net.au>, Barry Crompton <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, Jeff Yuille <darleith@optusnet.com.au>, Dave Sullivan <dsulli7875@aol.com>, Robert Krick <jabrelk@verizon.net>, <robert@findagrave.com>, <aj@findagrave.com>, <bob-anne@aapt.net.au>, Virginia Crocker <crockers2@westnet.com.au>, <deb@findagrave.com>, <findagraveruss@hotmail.com>, <info@findagrave.com>, Len Traynor <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, <mark@findagrave.com>, <russ@findagrave.com> CC: <jamesmgray@bigpond.com>, <gray.power@bigpond.com> Subject: FW: Photo of Imperial Veterans Alliance of New Zealand [Sydney Herbert Davies]. Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:11:03 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B09EE3C.7040608@mailhost> References: <BAY137-W8DC6C8451D1694867BD99C5A80@phx.gbl>,<4B09EE3C.7040608@mailhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2009 07:11:03.0431 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E202170:01CA6C0C] X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150205.4B0A3589.005B,ss=1,fgs=0 |
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Just received confirmation by e-mail
today, from the facility in New Zealand, from which I purchased my
copy of the photo of Sydney Herbert Davies, and which was copied,
inappropriately by Gray, from my contribution on Davies, shown at
the FIND A GRAVE web site. It shows the extent and the lengths
this charlatan will go to, in using the work of others, without
permission. The message I received is shown below, but I have
removed the name of the facility, and the e-mail address of Ms
Jenks, knowing that Gray will try and contact her about the photo.
However, several American correspondents, also included in this
message, will further confirm my possession of the photo, for over a
year now. Additionally, it shows how incompetent Gray is, as, even after copying my biography of Sydney Herbert Davies, he still manages to clumsily get several important details wrong. The full biography, with correct details and photo, will appear in the summer issue of the journal of the Company of Military Historians. Regards, Terry. n > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:06:52 +1300 > From: > To: tfoenander@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: Photo of Imperial Veterans Alliance of New Zealand. > > Dear Terry, > I have had the opportunity to go back through our photo order documents. > Your order was placed with us on 20th November 2008. I can find no > record of an order for a Jim Gray for this photograph. > Kind Regards > Glenda Jenks > > Terry Foenander wrote: > > Dear Ms Jenks, > > Thank you for your letter of November 9, in relation to my query > > about whether a Jim Gray had ordered a copy of the above named photo, > > which I had purchased about a year ago, from . > > The reason I queried this was because this person, Jim Gray, is > > known to often plagiarise the material and items, off the Internet, > > that belong to other researchers, and has often been castigated for > > using material without the permission of the owners. He has already > > been ordered, on several occasions, to remove items he used that were > > from the work of other researchers. > > Now I have found that a detail from the photo of the Imperial > > Veterans group that I had placed on the Internet, has been used by > > Gray, although it has been altered somewhat. I do know that he has > > copied and used my own copy because, in the process of altering the > > photo, Gray was unable to show a medal that is shown in my own copy, > > after the photo was darkened somewhat by Gray. I needed to prove > > that he had not purchased a copy from your group, and that he had > > copied mine. > > Thank you for your help in this matter. > > Regards, > > Terry. |
| 23 November 2009 |
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Barry, Dave and Len, I have been attempting to dig up as much data on J.F. Minor, who had served on at least four of the Confederate cruisers (ALABAMA, TUSCALOOSA, RAPPAHANNOCK and the SHENANDOAH), and who drowned off the coast of New South Wales, shortly after the close of the war, but there is quite bit of confusion on his first name, and also about his supposed service on a fifth cruiser, the SUMTER (which another veteran buried in Australia, Frank Drake, served on). I have a copy of the only muster and pay roll of the CSS SUMTER, known to exist, that for the period April to September, 1861, and it definitely does not include the name of Minor amongst the officers and crew, but there is always the possibility that he may have served after that period. However, I will place his name, as unconfirmed, in respect to the SUMTER. Now the main point I want to confirm, if anyone can do so, please, is whether his first name was Joseph, John or Joshua, as all three have been used in the several accounts that mention his name. The CSN Register volume shows two different entries, one for Joseph F. Minor, and the other for Joshua F. Minor,but they are most definitely one and the same officer. Minor is also mentioned in the affidavit by Temple (as F.C. Minor, which was obviously an error), and also in the journals of surgeon Lining, Thomson Mason, Whittle and Chew of the SHENANDOAH, as well as in at least one journal of an officer of the ALABAMA (Fullam), but, as with the other confusing entries, his first name is either not shown at all (just the initials J.F.), or shown in several different forms. Even William Marvel's volume, THE ALABAMA AND THE KEARSARGE: THE SAILOR'S CIVIL WAR tends to add to the confusion by showing the first name, within the text of the volume, as John, and then in the roster at the end of the volume as Joseph. But then again, I never place much faith in second or third hand accounts anyway, and much rather prefer original accounts or documentation. If any of you have absolute confirmation of the first name of Minor, please let me know. I do know that, although born in Virginia, he is stated to have served on a merchant vessel that sailed out of Boston, and which vessel was captured by the ALABAMA, and from which Minor was first shipped as a seaman, and subsequently appointed master's mate by Semmes, when he was sent aboard the TUSCALOOSA. His name is also shown on the muster roll of the CSS RAPPAHANNOCK, before he finally served aboard the CSS SHENANDOAH and left that vessel at Liverpool, before coming from Liverpool to Melbourne,and then finally going to the south coast of New South Wales, where he drowned in a fishing expedition, and his body was never recovered. The NSW Death Registry has informed me that, in such cases (where the remains are lost at sea), no death certificate is issued, and that is why there is none for the death of Minor. Do let me know if anyone has confirmation of Minor's actual first name, please. I do have a U.S. census record showing a Joshua F. Minor, born in Virginia about 1833, but who was working as a boatman at Huntington, Suffolk County, New York, in 1860, and this could possibly be our JFM of the CSS SHENANDOAH. Regards, Terry. P.S. Apparently Minor was also a bit of a bully on the CSS SHENANDOAH, as he was mentioned as bullying several of the crew members, and also, in attempting to bully Lodge Colton, a fellow officer, they ended up challenging each other to |
| 3rd December 2009 |
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Folks, Note how even those in the U.K. are now affected by the more stringent policies of the Veterans Administration, in regard to applications for grave markers. However, I still believe that the tightened regulations should have been implemented years ago, to prevent all the fraud, faked documents, and other con jobs that were used to obtain such markers. Furthermore, if these policies had been in place years ago, there probably would not have been markers obtained for persons who were never even in America, let alone served in the Civil War (e.g. Graydon, Coffee, etc.). I also believe that all possible means to locate descendants should be attempted, to prevent any future consequences, such as that which happened in the case of the Graydon gravestone, which was applied for, and placed in the cemetery without even a cursory attempt to find the descendants, and who were furious about the stone having been installed, without even a shred of proof that Graydon had served in the Missouri unit mentioned on the stone. This gravestone, at Yarragon Cemetery, in Victoria, should be removed at the expense of the ACWRTQ, since it was one of their members who applied for it, and had it installed. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The fraud also includes the name of at least one person, a decendant, whom he indicates as a source for his material on one of the veterans, but which descendant has been deceased for more than a decade!!!!! Funny that!! Regards, Terry. |
| 4th December 2009 |
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I would like everyone to note the following message
from Gray, containing the usual vast amount of rubbish,
fabrications, and even changed statements. Evidence of what
actually went on is shown in red. Terry. False Accusations
The website, www.acwv.info, dedicated to all American Civil War veterans buried in or from Australia & New Zealand, and its researchers has been slandered and I felt the public should know why. This is not a web site dedicated to Civil War veterans, as David Cassin was not a Civil War veteran, and neither was Edward Mosby, the Davies brothers, and quite a number of others. The evidence to prove this is available to anyone, who is even bothered to check the facts.
This author does not like having to entertain or participate in negative confrontations with, or character assassinations of others, but to clarify and dismiss false accusations made against the veterans website, its researchers and its contributors, an explanation why certain individuals have chosen to do so is required. Perhaps the author should then respect the wishes of the original researchers, such as Barry Crompton, Len Traynor, Mrs. Virginia Crocker, and not use their original work, without permission. Permission was originally denied, back in 2005, when Gray first contacted use about this research on the veterans, because we could see that he was often making misquotes, errors, totally incorrect assumptions, and many other factors, which proved that Gray was definitely a "wannabe" researcher, with no proper qualifications. Using photographs without permission (such as the Davies and Heald photos) is not a false accusation. Stating, to Mr. Len Traynor, that Gray had obtained the photo of Heald some thirty years ago, locally, and many, many other falsities, when Gray was never even in Australia (he settled here in 2000) shows that his fabrications have stretched all the way from Florida to Australia, and world wide.
Mr. Terry Foenander, who is responsible for these attacks, is a talented researcher, but has been said by more than one to be somewhat self centered, egotistical, narcissistic, is completely pro-Union oriented and does not always provide all the facts. Funny that Gray should claim that I am pro Union when I have always stated that I am not biased, and, furthermore, my extensive studies on the Confederate Navy veterans proves this to be another false statement. This obvious assumption came about after I poo-pooed Waldburg's so called research article on Raphael Semmes, showing evidence that Semmes was definitely not the first to come out with an emancipation proclamation, and other such statements. If I am as egotistical as Gray claims, why do I always state, when others refer to me as an expert, that I am definitely not an expert, but just an amateur and an avid student of the subject? I always provide the facts, as shown in documents and by other true researchers. Rather hypocritical of Gray to make such a statement, when he himself always relies solely on oral data, or assumptions, as we all know. It is no good calling Mr. Terry Foenander a talented researcher in one passage, and then, in the very next passage, stating that I do not always provide the facts. A talented researcher provides the facts, all the time, and always eliminates his errors. I am either one or the other, not both. As usual, Gray continues to contradict himself. Mr. Terry and others have represented many 'facts' about James Gray, other researchers, the acwv.info website, the American Civil War Round Table of Queensland, Inc. and anything Confederate that simply are not true. Mr. Foenander claims because he and others 'first' researched Australian veterans that gave them exclusive rights and copyright ownership to all the information, even if it came directly from the same original sources they used, as well as from any archival sources; which of course can't be done. The acwv.info website has acquired its information from "original" sources, many the same sources Mr. Foenander and others had previously contacted, and not from anywhere else. Funny that Gray should include names of people long deceased, as sources, in his source notes, and even those who have expressed surprise to me that their names are there, when they never ever provided information to him at all, and would not do so, even if he asked [e.g. two examples being Mrs. Margaret Gribbin, and Bob Simpson; Gray even uses photographs, such as the Heald photo, without permission, and then lies to Mr. Len Traynor that he (Gray) had acquired the photo thirty years before, locally.] Other sources have stated to me that he places data which is totally incorrect, even after they have provided data to Gray that the data he has is inaccurate [e.g. data on Yeatman (now removed, after I proved it as false), and Robert Farmer (which incorrect data Gray still has online)] And, furthermore, I have never ever stated that we have "exclusive rights and copyright owenership" of the material, just that it is being copied from our work, and used without our permission. I STRONGLY CHALLENGE GRAY TO SHOW WHERE EXACTLY I HAVE MADE THAT QUOTED STATEMENT. Originally Mr. Foenander also exchanged information and cooperated with Mr. Gray, until he learned research was to be placed on a website free for everyone to use, and that 'oral history' from families was also going to be included. To this he violently objected and began a slander campaign that has lasted for several years. No one is perfect and when mistakes are discovered, they were and are corrected; but Mr. Foenander always refused to provide 'any' proof of mistakes when asked, before they were made. He only criticises, slanders and raves on. No, I did not "learn" that our work was to be placed online by Gray, but it was just suddenly placed online without our knowledge or any previous intimation of Gray's intentions. This will strongly be confirmed by Mrs. Virginia Crocker and also past president and secretary of the American Civil War Round Table of Australia, Mr.Barry Crompton, both of whom are included as recipients of this message. Gray has never ever conformed to proper etiquette, and does what he wants, not what others, who have done the original research, request him to do. Besides, he ignores all requests, anyway, and thumbs his nose at anyone who wants him to follow the proper mode of research work.
One of the first individual in Australia to research American Civil War Veterans who were buried in Australia, as Australians, was Mr. Len Traynor and later Mr. Roy Warren Parker; an American living in New South Wales at the time. Gray originally claimed that Roy Parker was the "first" to do the research on the veterans, but, after I constantly showed him to be incorrect in this statement, it can now be seen that he has added the name of Len Traynor, who was, indeed one of the first known researchers on the veterans. Roy Warren Parker, a member of the 22nd Bombardment Group during World War II, was based at Amberley Field in Queensland, Australia where he met and married his wife and after returning to Australia, discovered that during World War II American soldiers killed in action, or those who died in Australian hospitals, were buried in the Rookwood Cemetery in Sydney, Australia. He also stumbled across a very old headstone, which was identified as the burial of an American Civil War soldier; and being associated with Mr. Len Trayner who had long been a researcher, he began his own research. He was an astute researcher and did much to enhance Australian history relating to the Civil War veterans and was responsible for many headstones being placed on Civil War veteran’s graves in his locality; where none had been before. Gray, as usual, continues to make use of the Parker name, even though Roy's daughter, Mrs. Virginia Crocker has constantly indicated that she does not want Gray making any use of the name, which, as usual, he ignores, showing how much respect he places on the requests of the descendants, and others. No doubt, too, Gray has gotten several facts wrong, and inaccurate, about Roy. It shows his constant use of assumptions, which he seems to rely on often. Mr. Parker was aided in his research by several other individuals, led by Mr. Len Traynor, Barry Crompton, Terry Foenander and others. After his death much of his research was donated to the Royal Australian Historical Society Library where anyone supposedly ["supposedly" is only what Gray assumes, as usual, because any respectable researcher would ask permission of the original owners of the work] could use it and in 2000 some of his research was compiled into a book, entitled “Civil War Veterans in Australia”, published by his daughter, Mrs. Virginia Crocker. Mr. Parker is considered to be one of the foremost researchers in Australia on the subject [funny that Gray, as usual, makes another assumption, as I have a letter from the late Roy Parker, in which he actually states that, without our help - Barry Crompton, Bob Simpson, Len Traynor and others - he would not have been able to amass the amount of data that we all assisted in acquiring, and furthermore, Roy definitely placed a lot of reliance on Len Traynor, as Roy did not know all that much about the Civil War itself; if Gray wishes to dispute these facts, he may want to consult Len Traynor himself; assumptions are the sole preserve of those who have no knowledge on a subject they consider themselves authorities on, and Gray is such an assumptionist] and is considered by his some of his followers to be the only authoritative source. [Once again, Gray is making statements that he knows nothing about and is talking through his nose; none of us have considered Roy Parker as the only authoritative source.] From all indications the majority of his research was derived from U.S. Pension files in the U.S. Consoler’s office; birth, marriage and death records in Australia; descendants he uncovered; Australian Family History Groups and the National Archives in Washington, D.C.
On the website there was an in-depth memorial page dedicated to Mr. Roy Parker and his work, a biography prepared by Mr. Barry Crompton on himself for his contributions to Civil War research in Australia and a picture and advertising on the Parker publication; encouraging viewers to purchase a copy of the original book from Mrs. Crocker. After Mr. Foenander began his slander campaign Mr. Gray was asked to remove all of it from the website; which he did. NO, it was not because of any so-called "slander campaign" by mysef or anyone, for that matter. Gray was ordered to remove it because Mrs. Virginia Crocker did not want her late father's name sullied by this incompetent and totally incapable charlatan (these are my descriptions of Gray, and not Mrs. Crocker's; she was much kinder in her references to him). Despite being told, about three times to remove all references to Roy Parker, Gray would remove it briefly, then place it back on, time and again, until it seems that he has finally done so. It shows the stubborn nature and insincerity of the man.
It was not until Mr. Gray began compiling and documenting “oral history” of families and communities, especially on one Edward Mosby, a 'supposed' Confederate veteran, that problems began. Mr. Terry Foenander insisted that “oral history” was nothing more than homespun tales made up by family members to enhance their ancestors memory and had no factual base or importance; and he insisted Mr. Gray discard it and not include the information provided. Mr. Gray explained that in the United States “oral history” is highly sought after, as it is in Australia, and is recorded and preserved. Oral history is the basis for many histories as we know them today, from the Holy Bible to war stories of the American Civil War, World War I and World War II. So Mr. Gray included the oral history, as “oral history”, explaining both sides of the controversy. Once again, Gray falsifies and fabricates, because it was not originally because of the Mosby factor that I found Gray's "research" as being incompetent, but because he kept repeating mistake after mistake, when he first contacted us in early 2005. Barry Crompton can confirm that I began to notice many inconsistencies, inaccuracies, and how Gray kept repeating the same old errors time after time. It was thus that I realised that I did not want any of my research to be assisted by someone whom I considered as an incompetent charlatan. Shortly after, I sent a message to Gray, stating that I felt that his so called "research" was very shoddy at best, and his immediate response was quite vulgar. I asked him to not use any of my work or my name. Of course, as is usual with him, he removed my name, but kept my work, and kept claiming that it was acquired through his own research. Yet, there were many documents that he placed online which were very obviously my own copies, as they had the dates of when I acquired them. Once again, this shows that the man is nothing less than dishonest and a fabricator, as has been proven so many times since, even by several others.
From his refusal to totally disregard oral history, Mr. Foenander began a long lasting and on-going in-depth character assassination of Mr. Gray, his wife and his work; accusing him of plagiarism, the copying of information directly from the Roy Parker publication and from Mr. Foenander’s small website pages. Mr. Foenander made claims he could have gotten it no where else and that Mr. Gray “had made a claim that he was actually a veteran of World War II; when he was in fact only born in 1939”; which is simply a falsehood. Mr. Gray’s 'father', James F. Gray, was a military munitions guard on ships in California during WWII and at a young age he lived there with him. “Simply Australia” an on-line production who Mr. Foenander claims Mr. Gray made such a claim to, has assured Mr. Gray, in writing, that they HAVE NEVER TOLD Mr. Foenander or anyone else that he had made such a claim; which Mr. Foenander still claims they told him so. Mr. Foenander even went so far as to publicly state that Mr. Gray “forged” Regimental Muster Roll documents that he had actually received from the Georgia State Archives, Reference Service Officer Mr. Greg Jarrell in the United States in April 2008. Gray did indeed claim to hav been a veteran of the Second World War, and this is proven in a message sent me, twice for confirmation, by none other than John Godl of the SIMPLY AUSTRALIA web site. I could not believe it at first, knowing that Gray was born in 1939, so I requested a second confirmation of this statement by John, who did so, once more, and both messages can be clearly viewed on the Internet. If Simply Australia has indeed sent a letter to Gray claiming that they have never told me about this statement of Gray's then it obviously contradicts what John Godl has stated in his messages, and obviously, whoever wrote such a letter is calling Mr. Godl a liar. As for the forged ROBERT FARMER document, it was altered after Gray contacted the person at the Georgia Archives, and was not done prior to this. Gray had been attempting for some three years, to try and prove that the Austalian born Robert Farmer had been a Confederate veteran, despite Ms Amy Hedrick showing Gray, time after time, and for three long years, that this was impossible. Yet Gray kept ignoring the facts that Ms Hedrick would show, time after time, until, finally, and magically, a document appeared in Mr. Gray's possession, and which he boastfully passed around to everyone that he could possibly show it to, indicating that another person, named Robert Farmer was, according to the faked document, an "Australian Soldier". Gray used this fake document to acquire the grave marker from the Veterans Administration for the grave of the Australian born Robert Farmer, buried in Glynn County, but who was definitely not the actual Confederate veteran of the same name, and who is, in fact, buried in Jefferson County, Georgia. That the document was altered after Gray contacted the Georgia Archives shows that something fishy occurred, and which obviously resulted in the sacking of the poor employee of the Georgia Archives,who did the alteration. This employee had no interest whatsoever, in the Australian born Robert Farmer, and was obviously goaded. Proof of this fishy scheme is in the fact that the document was not altered until AFTER Gray contacted the Archives, while he was trying to find anything at all to counter Ms Hedrick's proper and thorough research. I only happened to stumble upon this fake when it was sent me by someone to whom Gray had sent the faked copy, and I immediately noticed that, not only was the handwritten inscription of "AUSTRALIAN SOLDIER" totally different than other handwriting on the same page, but I was also aware that such a statement is never placed on that first page of military service cards. It was so clearly a fake, and a poor one at that, that it was clear that someone was up to no good. The whole series of events of when Ms Hedrick had been trying with so much difficulty, in convincing Gray that the Australian born Robert Farmer was not the same person who was the Confederate veteran of the same name is detailed at http://www.glynngen.com/history/people/farmer1/ Despite all the proof, and the exposure of the faked document, Gray still continues to have the Australian born Robert Farmer, up at his web site, as a Confederate veteran, and tries to imply that our research, as well as that of the SCV in Georgia, and the VA in Washington, was "meddling and interference."
On May 14, 2009 Mr. Gray received an email, and a hard copy letter, from Mr. David W. Carmicheal, Director of the Georgia State Archives, apologizing to Mr. Gray after Mr. Gray had contacted his office directly about the matter; providing emails from the Georgia State Archives representative and the ‘certified copy’ he had received from their office. Mr. Carmicheal stated that a staff member of his own department had “altered” a document and had sent it out as a Georgia State Archive “certified” authentic document; unbeknown to his department or Mr. Gray. This is another example of Mr. Foenander’s continual unfounded vendetta against Mr. Gray. No, it is not a vendetta, but an attempt to correct all the inaccuracies, fabrications and assumptions that pervade Gray's work, from end to end. There are hundreds of such inaccuracies and falsehoods, if one takes the trouble to peruse each biography. In fact, some of the errors are so simple and basic that it proves that Gray is incompetent beyond anything known before. Several American and English researchers will confirm this if required to do so.
The harassments by emails, on the internet and to newspapers became so bad that Mr. Gray’s wife, friends and anyone who assisted him were also included in the harassment. It got so bad his wife was under a doctor’s care for stress and almost had a nervous breakdown. Mr. Foenander has harassed individuals, groups and organizations, including chapters of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, Inc. and the Sons of Union Veterans, Inc. from Australia to Europe; resulting in many having to place him on a block senders list. Even Dr. Jack Ford, an historical officer for the City of Brisbane, Australia was harassed and threatened by Mr. Foenander, until Dr. Ford's attorney put a stop to it. Then Mr. Crompton also began using his American Civil War Round Table of Australia newsletter to attack Mr. Gray. On several occasions Mr. Gray was threatened with lawsuits and worse by Mr. Foenander. Perhaps if Gray did not indulge in the falsehoods, fabrications and assumptions that he does, his family may not be effected. An honest person will always protect his family to the fullest. Jack Ford's name, being shown without permission, at Gray's web site, was proof enough that Gray would use any means to legitimise his fake work. Ford's name was shown as one of the sources at the Bissell research, despite the fact that Bissell was my own original research, and which Gray used without my authority. That Jack Ford expressed recent surprise when he saw his name being used at the Introduction page placed by Gray online, is an indication that even Ford was unaware of what the extent of the deceit had reached. Mr. Ford may also want to reveal the facts of how, about 2003, the ACWRTQ had claimed to have been the discoverer's of one of the veterans buried on Dunwich, despite the fact that there was already so much evidence that it had previously been researched by the original researchers of the veterans. Thankfully the Sydney Round Table pointed out these facts in one of their newsletters.
Their claims however, are baseless and unfounded, as all the information on the website came from information emailed or posted to him by individuals and groups throughout Australia, the United States, Europe, Denmark, Sweden and other countries; and from the National Archives and libraries in the United States, Australia and European countries; from books and documentations of early Civil War researchers; from Australian Family History Groups, cemeteries and newspapers and from descendants who personally sent him information on their ancestors; some being from the same people Mr. Foenander and others had previously contacted. As such, some information appearing on the Australian Memorial Website will invariably also be found in the Parker publication and on some other websites, as it all came from the same “original sources”. On the website, however, you will find an abundance of information not found in the Parker publication or any where else and all sources for the information are fully noted. It is provided for anyone to copy and use; even Mr. Foenander. The untruthfulness of these claims, by Gray, is shown in the many source notes shown at his web sites, where even persons who have been deceased for over a decade, are named as contacts used by Gray, and who had not settled in Australia prior to 2000. Others have contacted me and expressed surprise that they have found their names mentioned as being sources who had provided information to Gray. I have named two of these contacts as Margaret Gribbin and Bob Simpson, but there are many, many more. Gray continues to fabricate and falsify, yet the ACWRTQ seem unaware of these lies and fabrications. Furthermore, as I was informed by one of Gray's own former colleagues in Florida, who had worked with him in the 1970's, Gray has been involved in such fraudulent activities since the 1970's, and has a record in Florida. THe ACWRTQ need not believe me, nor listen to Gray's flimsy excuses and explanations, but all they need to do is conduct much investigation, and make contacts in the U.S., the U.K., and with others in Australia, and they will soon see the truth of just about everything that I state. However, it is fairly obvious that nothing will be done, and Gray will continue to indulge in all these activities. Unlike those that accuse Mr. Gray of mistakes and worse, he chooses not to arbitrarily make himself the final judge of what you the reader must read or accept; he presents the information made available to him either from documented sources or “oral” sources as it was presented, so that you have available the entire story; not just a researchers version of it. He does not claim to be the author of the website, which was given to the National Library of Australia by request for their archival records as they never knew of the veterans, but that all the contributors are actually the authors. If this is the case, then why does he continue to leave the Robert Farmer biography online, when the Australian born Robert Farmer has no evidence whatsoever, of any Confederate Service. The photo in the book, claimed to show him in Confederate uniform is actually, on closer examination, either a merchant marine uniform, or perhaps even Union blue in colour. Ask the experts. Edward Mosby has been shown to have been working on Union whaling ships in the Pacific, during the war, yet Gray continues to show him as a Confederate veteran. The John Huntress who served in the 27th Maine is buried in the U.S., and I have a photo online to show such proof, yet Gray continues to have him as being buried in Australia. Charles Henry Hill has no proof, whatsoever, of Civil War service, yet Gray continues to show him as a Civil War veteran. I can keep on citing so many such examples of mistakes, errors and assumptions, which proves that Gray is as incompetent as I have stated. He never researches, but just guesses to his heart's content, constantly pulling rabbits out of a hat and claiming them to be cats. He is just useless at such work, and should just give up completely. I feel very sorry for those who rely on his many inconsistencies and inaccuracies.
On occasions Mr. Gray has personally asked both Mr. Crompton and Mr. Foenander about specific veterans and information passed on to him, or to confirm or reject certain information given him, and was always refused even an answer. When Mr. Gray and his associates have found errors or mistakes, however, and have documentation to prove it, they have always corrected their mistakes and eliminated any individual that was proven or even suspected not to be a veteran; mistakes that could have been avoided if there had been cooperation between researchers; like Mr. Foenander and Mr. Compton. Unlike some, all of Mr. Gray’s information is fully sourced, documented with each veterans story and is available free on the website for anyone to copy and use. If both Barry and I have finally given up on Gray, and refused to share any further information (which he copies anyway, from our work shown online, and which Gray then embellishes with false data and incorrect assumptions), it is because of that very fact - namely, that he is totally incompetent. Gray claims that he has documentation to prove that he is right, yet he often creates his own version of things, and often uses false documents (such as the Robert Farmer document, the faked papers of Davies, in West Australia, and even faked medals) to prove something that is not correct. Gray doesn't even bother to contact the experts, in the U.S. and elsewhere to verify any documentation, and other items. He just uses these fakes as genuine articles, thus creating ever more research problems for the future. If we are prepared to pay for authentication of items, Gray should do so too, but he is too scungy to even bother with such means.
It is hoped that in the future all researchers would work in a spirit of cooperation with the preservation and distribution of Australian, New Zealand and Confederate and Union history in mind, rather than attacking each other and sequestering information that should be made available to everyone. All the proper researchers have indeed worked in cooperation with each other. Unfortunately, there is one person, who claims or aspires to be in such company, but is totally incompetent, and will never be accepted amongst the true researchers. He was discovered in 2005, to be as such, an incompetent, and asked not to use our material. He ignored this request, and falsely claimed to have done all his own research, yet it could be seen, often, that he was using many of our own passages, sometimes word for word, line for line. He used our photos, and had them altered to make it look like they were his own copies, and many of these alterations were so obviously flimsy efforts that they could be identified immediately. I would suggest that Gray take up some other line of research, where he can mess up some other historical accounts, instead of the work of all the original researchers of the Civil War veterans in Australia and New Zealand. I have no doubt that he will refuse to do this. He claims that he does not do this for monetary gain, yet, at the very beginning, he tried to place donation requests at his web site, several times, and then tried to sell his book, which contains so many laughable inaccuracies that it is obviously full of garbage and assumptions. The only ones who will be fooled into believing that it is all genuine research are those with either no knowledge of the Civil War (even well known generals such as Phil Sheridan and Ulysses Grant), or those who are so gullible enough that they will even believe that Elvis Presley lives in Bondi. I REST MY CASE. I STRONGLY URGE ANYONE WHO READS ANYTHING THAT GRAY WRITES, TO ACTUALLY GO TO THE SOURCE AND CHECK THE FACTS. YOU NEED NO BELIEVE WHAT I MYSELF HAVE WRITTEN, BUT TAKE THE TROUBLE TO CHECK THE SIMPLE FACTS. ANYONE WHO DOES SO WILL SEE THAT HE IS TOTALLY INCOMPETENT, AND A FABRICATOR AS WELL. |
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Gray made the following claims, in his recent
message, together with the many others that have been shown to be
false: From his refusal to totally disregard oral history, Mr. Foenander began a long lasting and on-going in-depth character assassination of Mr. Gray, his wife and his work; accusing him of plagiarism, the copying of information directly from the Roy Parker publication and from Mr. Foenander’s small website pages. Mr. Foenander made claims he could have gotten it no where else and that Mr. Gray “had made a claim that he was actually a veteran of World War II; when he was in fact only born in 1939”; which is simply a falsehood. Mr. Gray’s 'father', James F. Gray, was a military munitions guard on ships in California during WWII and at a young age he lived there with him. “Simply Australia” an on-line production who Mr. Foenander claims Mr. Gray made such a claim to, has assured Mr. Gray, in writing, that they HAVE NEVER TOLD Mr. Foenander or anyone else that he had made such a claim; which Mr. Foenander still claims they told him so. I challenge Gray to show everyone (and that means every addressee in this message), the letter that he claims to have received from SIMPLY AUSTRALIA, so that all can see who has stated that they never made such a statement to me. If so, then they are contradicting the exact words of Mr. John Godl, as shown in his two messages to me, which can be viewed at the following URLs: http://www.tfoenander.com/johngodl1.htm and http://www.tfoenander.com/johngodl2.htm It was for this very reason that I saved Mr. Godl's messages, and placed them online, knowing that Gray would deny such statements, and also for any other similar denials by anyone. Whoever wrote this particular letter to Gray is totally contradicting what Mr. Godl stated to me, and is thus attempting to call Mr. Godl a liar. I have full faith in what Mr. Godl stated to me. The two messages he sent me show that I was indeed told what I claimed to have been told. The letter Gray claims to have, from SIMPLY AUSTRALIA, is either a fabrication, or else is a denial and contradiction of exactly what was stated in the messages by Mr. Godl, and the person who wrote the letter needs to explain to Mr. Godl why such a contradiction exists. I have included this message to both Mr. Godl and the editor of SIMPLY AUSTRALIA, so that a full explanation can be sent to us all, to clear up this matter. Once again, I repeat, my claims to have been sent these statements were true, all along, and the messages prove this to be true. Note how two messages were sent, especially after I expressed disbelief that Gray would make such a claim, and to ensure that he did indeed make such a statement, and it was confirmed in the second message sent me. No ifs, no buts, just show the letter that Gray states SIMPLY AUSTRALIA sent him, together with the name of the person who signed the letter, and then I am sure both Valda and John of SIMPLY AUSTRALIA can discuss the matter, and will also be able to confirm that I did indeed receive the two messages from Mr. Godl, in which it is shown that I was informed that Gray had claimed to have served in the 2nd World War. This is only the tip of the massive iceberg, as Gray has made so many other similar fabricated claims, and we have been able to prove many of these as being false and just downright lies, even his claiming to have acquired the photograph of Confederate Navy carpenter, Edward Redmore Heald, some thirty years ago, locally, when Gray was never even in Australia, at that time. He made this statement to Mr. Len Traynor, but the fact that Gray has now removed the photograph of Edward Heald shows what a contemptible lie it was, in the first place. I will also show many other statements to be true, and which totally contradict much of what Gray has been claiming or fabrications he has made, through the years. Regards, Terry. |
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Mike, I would not place too much reliance on Gray's advise about obtaining the grave markers, because he is responsible for so many errors, in such applications, that you may get your fingers burn't if working on his so called authoritative advice. I would advise you, instead, to go directly to the VA web site and peruse the instructions there, including those on the back of the application forms [copy of which I have attached for you]. I strongly believe that every effort should first be made to locate any descendants, so that no future problems will eventuate, as they did with the applications sent in by Gray, for the John Henry Graydon grave in Yarragon, Victoria, and others. Furthermore, note especially what is stated about supplying military papers, etc. Ignoring this important factor resulted in the installation of a grave marker, in New Zealand, for someone who was actually killed at First Bull Run, and thus never settled in New Zealand. Once again, Gray was responsible for this. If he had taken the trouble to obtain the service record in the first place, he would have known that it could not have been the same John McBride who had served in the 38th New York. Also, the VA web site clearly states that, if a grave is already marked with a conventional gravestone or marker, even if no Civil War service is shown therein, that no application should be made for a VA marker at all. Column 3 of the application form clearly indicates that you should specify if the grave is marked or unmarked. Obviously false declarations were made in several applications sent out from Australia, in the last four years, such as for the grave of Solomon Bradford, which already has a conventional marker, and also the grave of John Henry Graydon. So, it is proper to be honest and thorough in all actions taken, when applying for any grave markers. Finally, I have no doubt that you will, as is usually the case with Gray, receive a message trying to make flimsy excuses and to explain away his constant failings. Since he will no doubt omit my address from such a message, you can be sure it is to hide the fact of his constant fabrications, assumptions and failures, which are enough to cover several volumes now. Several of the recipients of this message will confirm all this, and they will even be glad to point out some of his absurd errors and assumptions. Dave Sullivan will certainly let you know of one major error that is so laughable that it could only be the work of someone who knows absolutely nothing about the Civil War, and is shown at Gray's web site. I will not mention it here, because I want as many persons to know about it, before Gray has a chance to remove this one, in particular. However, this is not the first time that such a major error is shown, and it certainly won't be the last. Gray tries to exude an aura of knowledge and tries to imply that he knows a lot, but, in the process, proves himself to be a clown and a court jester. And yes, I have purposely included him as an addressee, because I want him to know that I am aware of his absurd and unreliable work, and I will keep on showing his utter incompetence, so that others won't rely on his web sites, and use such data at other web sites, as several have done before, including one lady who copied Gray's photo of what was actually Union cavalry general Phil Sheridan, but which Gray had incompetently captioned as being a Civil War veteran buried in Sydney, namely William Edward Sheridan. He only removed it after I advised her that the photo she had taken off Gray's web site was definitely not WE Sheridan, but of Phil Sheridan instead, and she, in turn, advised him of the mistake. This is just one small example of the many, many such errors and assumptions that the man makes, and you can fully understand why I refer to him as a charlatan and totally incompetent. Regards, Terry. |
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Amy, Just like the cornered rat that he really is, Gray will never include my name amongst the addressees, despite the fact that the main subject of his mailings is actually such a rebuttal to my properly documented accusations. Also, as everyone will probably have noted, he does not include Mrs. Virginia Crocker in these mailings, despite the fact that it was her father whose work was published in her 2000 volume, CIVIL WAR VETERANS IN AUSTRALIA, and from which work most of his biographies were plagiarised, and used without any permission. This is the kind of person we all know he really is. This response is going to be pretty lengthy, as usual, so you can either exit now, or fall asleep during the perusal of the message!! If Gray took the trouble to peruse all documentation and messages, published accounts, etc., of what was done, and what was not done by what he sarcastically terms "The Foenander Crew" he would have noted that many, if not all, of the early VA grave markers were acquired by descendants and family members themselves, and most certainly not this so called "Foenander Crew". [He foolishly places me in command, not only of a U.S. Navy vessel, but also of my fellow researchers, Barry Crompton, Virginia Crocker, Roy Parker, Len Traynor, Bob Simpson, etc., but obviously has no idea that we all work on equal footing.] Furthermore, if he took the trouble to examine at least two of the photos of the grave markers that he has sent, he will see that these graves (Fairweather and Putnam Smith) are actually original VA grave stones, and which were later affixed with personal markers obtained by the descendants themselves, AFTER the VA markers were installed. These were private markers, purchased by the families concerned. Furthermore, I can tell everyone, right now, that the Putnam Smith gravestone and affixed marker are not on the actual grave of Putnam Smith himself, for a very good reason. If Gray has done any research at all, on the veterans, let alone on Putnam Smith, he will surely be able to let us know this particular reason. But, knowing that he has never performed any such research and has just copied, time after time, and tried to claim credit for all this work, he will never be able to divulge this reason. The Gorsuch grave, as any child can see, let alone a fool like Gray, has no death or other details shown on an original conventional marker, other than the GORSUCH family name alone at the end of the concrete gravesite. Gray should have been able to see this, before he sent the photo along, but, once more, he shows his inability to see the evidence right before his very eyes! Everyone can surely now understand why I have no faith in any so called "research" performed by this man. Even his attempts to justify his own failures end up being failures themselves, just like his very poor and unskilled attempt to explain the inscription on the Bissell grave marker. Gray is certainly no authority on anything other than fabricating material and falsifying items. This has been proven, time and time again. And, despite his often flimsy attempts to explain these failings away, any amateur, such as what I am, can easily see through these falsehoods and weak explanations. And, once more, he has now given himself away, by Amy proving, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that both his Internet Provider identification number, and that of Mason Simmons are one and the same, despite this Mason Simmons giving a false residential address in Florida, and despite Gray's denials to knowing Mason Simmons. What does that say about the man? He is nothing but a common crook, and has been since his days in Florida, dressing up items, acquiring maps improperly, and many other such activities, as shown by one of his own former colleagues in Florida. If his attacks on my Asian heritage have done anything, they have indeed made me even more vicious than I previously was, and much more determined to see all this right through to the end, even if I have to die trying. He has now lied to so many persons, around the world, about so many things, and when challenged to show evidence, has failed to respond, as in the case of Mr. Sullivan's challenge to name the person supposed to have provided Gray with the Sydney Herbert Davies photo (which was very clearly altered, which Mr. Sullivan can also confirm), as well as my own challenge to show exactly where, in any of my web sites, Message Board statements, or anywhere else in the entire world, I have supposedly stated that I was a United States Navy commander, or where I have stated that I was a United States Citizen. Where am I shown to be passing myself off as an Australian? I have been an Australian citizen since 1976, and have lived here since December, 1973, more than a quarter of a century before Gray ever set foot on this fair land, and commenced his campaign to deceive the Australians about his qualifications, and his own genealogy. He has also not provided the name or address of the person whom he claimed provided him with the Edward Heald photo, "thirty years ago, locally", which he claimed in a phone conversation with Mr. Len Traynor (the real owner of the photo, previously shown at Gray's web site, and now removed ever since I exposed Gray's false claim; Gray has a habit of removing these claims, photos and falsehoods, but will place them back on at some later stage, when he expects that no one is checking any further; no doubt the name of Jack Ford will reappear at at some later stage). No doubt he has succeeded in deceiving some of those in Queensland, perhaps even family members, but it seems clear to many of us, even those living overseas, that he cannot fool all of the people, all of the time. He has denied knowing Mason Simmons, in a message to Lisa Truttman, but the same IP numbers, the name Mason, which is Gray's middle name, and the origin of the Mason Simmons e-mail address as being in Brisbane, and not Florida, as falsely shown in the "Mason Simmons" messages all prove that it is this one crook. The fact that he previously tried to acquire some information on another veteran buried in Queensland, from me, by using the false name of Brett Stevens, proves to what lengths he will go to, to acquire data, or for a malicious intent. IT WAS JIM GRAY, UNDER THE ASSUMED NAME OF MASON SIMMONS, WHO SENT OUT THE FALSE CLAIMS TO MANY PERSONS, THAT I HAD STATED IN A WEB SITE, THAT I HAD BEEN A U.S. NAVY COMMANDER, THAT I HAD BEEN A U.S. CITIZEN, AND THAT I HAD PASSED MYSELF OFF AS AN AUSTRALIAN, AND IT WAS HE WHO MADE LIGHT OF THE FACT (WHICH WAS ALREADY KNOWN BY JUST ABOUT EVERYONE, ANYWAY) THAT I HAD BEEN BORN IN ASIA, AND IT WAS GRAY, AND NO ONE ELSE, WHO REFERRED TO ME AS A "BALI TERRORIST"; IF HE IS TOTALLY CONVINCED THAT I AM WRONG, AND THAT IT IS NOT TRUE, I CHALLENGE THE SCOUNDREL TO TAKE ME TO COURT. I KNOW IT WILL NOT BE DONE, BECAUSE IT HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVEN THAT GRAY SENT OUT THOSE MESSAGES UNDER THE NAME OF MASON SIMMONS. He has been operating in this fashion since at least the early 1970's, and former fellow researchers were aware of this fact, and that is why he obviously came to Australia, so that he could fool another group of researchers who were unaware of the true nature of his past. All this and more has already been revealed thanks to the thorough investigations of Ms Amy Hedrick, in Georgia. He tried to fool Ms Hedrick, and a number of persons, in Glynn County, Georgia, by passing around a fake document, and then also using that fake document to inappropriately acquire a grave marker for an Australian born person named Robert Farmer, but was, thankfully, exposed for this fraud, and many other such scams and assumptions. Despite all the investigations conducted on the Robert Farmer matter, by Ms Hedrick, as well as the Sons of Confederate Veterans group in Glynn Couny, Georgia, and the Veterans Administration in Washington, and their evidence and proof to show that Gray's so called research was flawed from the very beginning, and that he just would not budge, when proven wrong, he now tries to claim that all these investigators and researchers were involved in "meddling and interference" in his research. These very words can still be seen if one goes to his site at www.acwv.info and clicks on the Robert Farmer biography. However, if anyone wishes to see this, they need to be quick, as he will surely remove these very words, when he reads this, as he has done with several other false and fabricated claims, so many times in the past. I expect him to come up with more flimsy excuses for all this evidence I have shown, and especially for the gravestone photos he has shown, in his message to Amy and a number of others, and I expect that, when he tries to respond, if he does, he will remove some of the addresses of key persons, who can provide the true facts, if required to do so. This is the way the man works, and his only intentions in life, are to deceive and fabricate, and falsify history as much as he can. This is the person for whom someone has written a poem about, praising him to high heaven (go to www.acwv.info, once more, and click on the William Waters biography, and the poem can be seen there). He is obviously the best thing since sliced tofu, to those in the ACWRTQ. If Gray wants to refer to me as looking like a "Bali terrorist" despite the fact that I am not, then I will come down hard on the man, just like the tactics they themselves use. I will also continue my campaign, as I promised to do so, until the man issues a full apology to every single person he has deceived and been dishonest to, for all these long years, including his own family members, who are obviously unaware of his past. I will only cease my onslaught when this apology, and all the other requests are honoured fully. Then, and only then, will this stop. If a man wants to be dishonest to everyone, and make false claims and fabricate so much material, then he should expect to be treated like the crook he is. Regards, Terry. From: amylyn@glynngen.com To: jamesmgray@bigpond.com; a.lange@clear.net.nz; asmith@sos.ga.gov; archives@dos.state.fl.us; bqkscv@yahoo.com; BCrompton@bigpond.com; lentraynor@optusnet.com.au; ccave@dos.state.fl.us; coxonmv@bigpond.com; dkirlin@accentamerican.net; dmcm2049@bigpond.net.au; editor@simplyaustralia.net; ghearn@esc.net.au; civilwarjustice@aol.com; sailorette53@gmail.com; dsulli7875@aol.com; tfoenander@hotmail.com Subject: Fw: Terry Foenander - Commander U.S. Navy - Australian Army - New York Times Researcher Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:58:30 -0500
That's funny, the email from Mason Simmons
came from IP 121.208.72.110 and this email from Mr. Gray
came from the same IP.
This means that both people go through the
same server when sending info from their home computer; so
if they are not the same man, they do live in the same
neighborhood.
Further proof:
Right under "Posted by James Gray..." it
shows the IP address where the computer post originated
from, same IP. Curious.
This website also shows you what server is
being hit:
It's a Bigpond Internet Service Provider
server. Strange.
Not only that, but why wasn't Mr. Foenander
included in the email below? After all, isn't this in
rebuttal to his accusations?
Amy Hedrick GlynnGen.com, webmaster http://www.glynngen.com Hedrick & Allied Families http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~amylyn
----- Original Message -----
From:
Jim Gray
To:
a.lange@clear.net.nz ;
asmith@sos.ga.gov ;
archives@dos.state.fl.us ;
Georgia SCV ;
amylyn@glynngen.com ;
BARRY Crompton ;
lentraynor ;
ccave@dos.state.fl.us ;
Margaret Coxon ;
dkirlin@accentamerican.net ;
dmcm2049@bigpond.net.au ;
editor@simplyaustralia.net ;
ghearn@esc.net.au ;
civilwarjustice@aol.com ;
Amy Hedrick ;
Carrie Hancock ;
dsulli7875@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 5:54 AM
Subject: Terry Foenander - Commander U.S. Navy - Australian
Army - New York Times Researcher
First of all, I do NOT know who
Mason Simmons is; and I have never sent, and will never send, an
email except under my own name.
As for the following; are you
telling me he knows nothing about this on the web? Is this not
Mr. Terry Foenander?
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Ross, Thank you very much for your very kind support and this message, but, like everyone else to whom he sent out these fabricated messages, Mason Simmons is none other than that charlatan and crook, James Mason Gray, of Loganholme, Queensland. [By the way, he is also included in this response, as he has already been caught out by none other than Amy Hedrick of Georgia, who exposed him once before, at her web site at http://www.glynngen.com/history/people/farmer1/] If Gray tries to deny being Mason Simmons, or knowing Mason Simmons, as he tried to do with a lady in New Zealand, you will be able to read the two messages, confirming the identity of "Mason Simmons", sent by Amy, which I will send you in the next couple of messages. Gray was exposed within hours of his sending out those fabricated and false messages, and, although I was born in Singapore, that is definitely not a detriment to my work. Within hours of Gray sending out the Mason Simmons messages, too, I received a very large number of messages of support, all telling me that they did not like the tone of the messages, and did not believe what "Mason Simmons" had claimed that I had said at my web sites, which was, of course, untrue. Several also sent messages directly to Mason/Gray, telling him that they did not give two hoots about my nativity, and all of them were very supportive indeed, so it seems that Gray's scheme, for that is really what it was, had backfired on him. Also, at least a couple of those who sent me messages of support had suspected that it was actually either a close buddy of Gray's, or as at least two of them stated, and which eventually proved to be correct, that Gray and Mason were one and the same. Thankfully one of those to whom Gray sent the messages (under the fake name of Mason Simmons) did some investigative research without any prompting from me and ended up proving, within hours of these messages being sent out, that Mason Simmons was not from Florida, as he claimed in his messages, but that the messages had originated from Brisbane. The evidence was even more damning just today, when this lady also showed, through her tremendous work, that the IP identification number of Mason Simmons' e-mail address, and that of Gray's were one and the same. So, despite his efforts to hide this assumed name, and his intentions to try and put me down, he only ended up showing without any doubt, that he would indulge in his usual schemes and fabrications, as he has been proven to have done since the 1970's, when he was living in Florida. Hopefully the ACWRTQ will take some definitive and final action against the man, as he has now proven himself to be the fraud that I always claimed he was. However, I am not holding my breath, as I believe he will be allowed to continue doing all this, despite all the concrete evidence of his activities being shown to everyone, including so many around the world. I am, however, very, very grateful for the many messages of support from the U.S., the U.K., Australia and New Zealand, after this attempted scam by Mason Simmons/Jim Gray. Anyway, I will next send you the two confirming pieces of evidence as investigated by Ms Hedrick. Regards, Terry. Subject: Terry Foenander Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:31:17 +1100 From: RossBrooks@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au To: simmonsmason99@yahoo.com CC: tfoenander@hotmail.com; lentraynor@optusnet.com.au; tynan18@bigpond.com; russ@findagrave.com; aj@findagrave.com; katrina@findagrave.com; info@findagrave.com; robert@findagrave.com; deb@findagrave.com; mark@findagrave.com; kissane.scv@gmail.com; bcrompton@bigpond.com; emilligan@earthlink.net; darleith@optusnet.com.au; noonang@aapt.net.au; crockers2@westnet.com.au; bushpig3@bigpond.com; dsulli7875@aol.com; jabrelk@verizon.net; bob-anne@aapt.net.au; jamesmgray@bigpond.com; gray.power@bigpond.com; jackford@bigpond.net.au
Hi Mason,
Terry is an Australian. I
have met him. He is a
passionate and dedicated researcher. Having shared his
research with another individual (Australian) he feels
himself exploited and the
historic records misrepresented. I can understand you
being sick and tired of this-but
cannot understand how you got any emails, as I can't see
your name on the list.
After getting a few of the
emails I contacted one of those being accused to find out
his version of the story. Have you contacted Terry? I
believe that he would clarify a lot of what you say.
Yours sincerely,
Ross Brooks
PS As I didn't see your name
on those circulated I took the liberty of adding it.
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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nskntingx01p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.190.217]) by nskntmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091207021928.DZLR93.nskntmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntingx01p.mx.bigpond.com>; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 02:19:28 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc4-s15.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.217]) by nskntingx01p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091207021927.SKIU10580.nskntingx01p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc4-s15.bay0.hotmail.com>; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 02:19:27 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W28 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:19:26 -0800 Message-ID: <BAY137-W281942A693AD67D9C0F150C5900@phx.gbl> Return-Path: tfoenander@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3925ac93-05c8-46e9-8205-07c7733f6736_" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.94.68] From: Terry Foenander <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: <rossbrooks@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au>, <amylyn@glynngen.com>, Barry Crompton <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, Virginia Crocker <crockers2@westnet.com.au>, Len Traynor <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, Dave Sullivan <dsulli7875@aol.com>, <waitemata@gmail.com>, <historian@avondale.org.nz> Subject: FW: Other email Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 02:19:26 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <241102.76849.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <685454.50898.qm@web51303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <BAY137-W26F9BA4892FBAD3E3E6768C5920@phx.gbl>,<241102.76849.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2009 02:19:26.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2C7C210:01CA76E3] X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150203.4B1C6630.0092,ss=1,fgs=0 |
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Ross, Appended below is the first message that Ms Hedrick sent me, exposing the fraud,named as "Mason Simmons" as being none other than Jim Gray. Gray will, no doubt, try to deny all this (as he tried to do with a lady in New Zealand), or make some flimsy excuse or explanation, and, when doing so, not include any of the addressees listed above, in his reply to you, for he knows that every single one of us will prove his words to be false or fabricated, in just about every way. But, if he does try this trademark plan which he continually does, I urge you to only look through all the vast amount of evidence as well as contact those who are very reliable and trustworthy, whom you know, including Barry Crompton, Dave Sullivan, etc. As you can see, I include Gray and Stephanie in these responses to show them that we are never fooled by Gray's attempts to deceive just about everyone on the planet. Will send you the second confirming message, from Amy, shortly. Please read through them, and judge for yourself. Amy's first confirming message, the one below, was more than enough to confirm it as being Gray, to just about everyone to whom he tried to pull this fast one, as most were aware of what Gray was capable of, and especially since he has been involved in such shenanigans since the 1970's, in Florida. Regards, Terry. P.S. Did you receive both the messages from Mason Simmons/Jim Gray, one of which was very racist in tone? If not, let me know, and I will send the one you did not receive. Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:42:45 -0800 From: glynnhistory@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Other email To: tfoenander@hotmail.com CC: simmonsmason99@yahoo.com; a.lange@clear.net.nz; asmith@sos.ga.gov; aj@findagrave.com; glynnhistory@yahoo.com; archives@dos.state.fl.us; bqkscv@yahoo.com; amylyn@glynngen.com
As you know, Mason is Gray's middle name :-)
And, take the IP address from the emails, and you will see
it orignated from a computer near Brisbane, Australia before
it came through Yahoo's servers in California:
I guess "Mason" does not realize EVERYTHING via the internet
can be traced!
I don't care where you are from, Terry, or what you claim,
your research speaks for itself no matter where you are from
or how you live your life. Through my own research I have
proven Gray to be a hack without you having to tell me (my
web pages were online discredting him before you ever
contacted me) and anyone can investigate the claims you have
made against Gray and do their own research and come to the
same conclusions (after all the U.S. Veteran's
Administration did). Gray doesn't seem to understand this
concept.
I guess Gray doesn't realize that I am the one that
researched his family history and found that he was not who
he claimed to be :-) I'm also the one who did the public
records research on him and found all the lawsuits against
him in Florida. Not only that, finding the publications he
claims as his own that were really authored by other
persons, like his ex-wife (and one under an alias that I
believe he has also used in these "attack" emails). All of
this info is available online for free, as you already know.
You see people like this on TV shows, never dreaming that
they can be like this in real life. Instead of admitting he
made a research mistake like any competent researcher, he
attacks those who are trying to help his research by
providing correct and true information. Very odd behavior.
Not to mention "Mason" sent this to my Yahoo address that is
not readily known by many. The reason? Because my old
address was closed out so Gray doesn't know the new one
which is easily found if you research it, but that's
something Gray, oops, "Mason" isn't capable of.
Take that "Mason Simmons".
Amy HedrickGlynnGen.com Webmaster Hedrick & Allied Families From: Terry Foenander <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: glynnhistory@yahoo.com Cc: simmonsmason99@yahoo.com Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 7:04:35 PM Subject: RE: Other email Amy, A large number of the persons who know me have already responded, and passed on these messages that Mason is passing around, and yes, I do believe that it is either Gray or one of his henchman doing all this dirty work. It shows the nature of these persons, whether they be minions of the main culprit, or anyone else. Some have already sent responses to Mason, and many of those with any intelligence at all, which I doubt is available in the Gray camp, already know that I was born in Singapore. Gray, Mason, and their ilk are obviously still living in antebellum times, and think that everyone who is not Caucasian is not capable of proper research work. I also challenge Mason (the name sounds like Manson to me!!) to show me where I have supposedly been "passing myself off" as an Australian. No doubt there will be no further response from this rogue. Everyone who knows me well knows that I was born in Singapore, and obtained Australian citizenship in 1976, after residing here some three years before that. Strangely enough, from all the great responses I have been receiving in the past few hours, from the U.S., the U.K., Australia, and even New Zealand, it is fairly obvious that Mason Simmons' fabrications and messages have done much more to further the cause against Gray and his minions, than has ever occurred before. So I should actually be thanking this fool, Mason Simmons. He has helped to show what Gray and his fellow fabricators will get up to, when they are caught spreading their numerous lies, assumptions, and fabrications. I think I did inform you that, in September last, Gray tried to use a false identity, using the name Brett Stevens, to obtain some of my research work, but I was not fooled when I saw the e-mail address he was using. This latest charade may be, as some of my correspondents have suggested, another one of his foolish attempts. The man is obviously totally worthless, as is Mason Simmons. Regards, Terry.
----- Forwarded
Message ----
From: Mason Simmons <simmonsmason99@yahoo.com> To: Amy Hedrick <glynnhistory@yahoo.com> Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 8:57:25 PM Subject:
Amy thought you might
like to know what your "Australian"
friend looks like.
He isn't actually an australian at
all yet passes himself off as one.
Sounds more like a Bali terrorist to
me.
Regards
Mason
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Ross, Here is the second piece of confirming evidence, from Ms Hedrick, showing final concrete evidence that Gray and Simmons are one and the same. Gray foolishly sent the message shown below, about the Veterans Graves, to several persons, trying to justify his incompetency, and, in the process of doing so, revealed his Internet Provider identification number as being exactly the same as that of this so called "Mason Simmons". It just goes to show that, not only is the man incompetent in any "research" work, but he cannot even try to hide a false identity that he wants to assume. And, as a matter of fact, he tried to pull a fast one on me just this last September, when he sent out a query to a gentleman in Queensland, under the false name of Brett Stevens, which query was then sent on to me. I immediately saw that this "Brett Stevens" had the e-mail address of none other than Jim Gray, so, of course, I did not send he data required. So Gray's claim, below, that he will never send an e-mail except under his own name, is totally false. HE CAN TAKE ME TO COURT FOR MAKING THIS STATEMENT, IF IT IS FALSE, BUT I KNOW HE NEVER WILL, BECAUSE HE IS THE MOST DISHONEST CHARLATAN I HAVE EVER KNOWN TO EXIST. I certainly owe a great deal of appreciation to Ms Hedrick. No doubt, in future such scams, fabrications and attempts to deceive the entire world, Gray will omit Ms Hedrick's address from such messages, knowing that she will be able to expose him immediately. By the way, in attempting to make the justifications shown in his message at the very end of the appended message from Gray, he further shows his incompetence, because, if he had any knowledge of the VA gravestones that he attached photographs of, he would have noted that they included original VA markers with family ordered attached plaques, etc. As well, the GORSUCH grave did not include any details of date of death, full names of those buried there, etc., and the marker was needed to identify Gorsuch himself as being buried in the grave. Ross, once again, I urge you, please go on your convictions, and not on any fabrications sent you by Gray, because that is all he is ever good for - fabrications, dishonesty, scams, assumptions and just plain fiction. The man is a total crook, as far as many of us are concerned, and the only ones who are fooled by his dishonesty, are only those who are gullible enough to be placed under his thumb. And, after his racist and dishonest messages of last Saturday, he can expect that I will never ever be forgiving towards him and his schemes. Regards, Terry. |
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Lisa, You do realise that I have several dozen web pages, many of which are my own written accounts of Union and Confederate Navy personnel in the Civil War, I assume? If not, visit http://www.tfoenander.com and you will see what my major interest has been all these years. At no time have I ever stated that I was in any position, in the United States Navy, either at those pages, or anywhere else, on the Internet, in published form, or in any form at all. I correspond with many fellow researchers, here, in New Zealand, in the U.K., and in the U.S., and just about everyone knows that I was born in Singapore, that I served in the Australian Army for just a little over twenty five years, honourably, I might add (especially since, at one point, some years ago, Jim Gray tried to imply, falsely, that I was kicked out of the Army), and that I have been an Australian citizen since 1976, and have resided in Australia since December, 1973. I have never represented myself, at any time in my life, as being born in the U.S., or in Australia, and have never "passed" myself off as an Australian, though I am an Australian citizen, and have been for much longer than Gray has ever been here, duping the Australians. Many of my correspondents are themselves personnel of, or have been, and are now retired, from the United States military, or military and naval historians. If any of them would have seen such a statement, they would surely have queried me further about this, long ago. Anyway, I would not be so stupid as to place such false and fabricated statements about myself anywhere in published form. Unlike Jim Gray, I do not need to big name myself to the extent that he has, and many times with such fabricated statements that we have been able to investigate and prove as being false. There are so many such fabrications that he has placed all over the Internet, that many of them can still be located and investigated, as some were, and just about all that we investigated were proven to be false. He often sends messages to those whom I have corresponded with, in an attempt to give his side of the story, but in doing so, often falsifies details to the point that nothing is believable about the man. Mr. Michael Hammerson, of the U.K., who is included as one of the addressees in this message, was most recently sent such a fabrication. In doing this, he always never includes me as an addressee (as when he sent you his own denial, a day or two ago), because he knows that I will be able to always show evidence that many of his statements are false and fabricated. Even when he was corresponding with Ms Amy Hedrick, he asked that I not be included in such exchanges between Ms Hedrick and Gray. The reason is very obvious - because, whenever he fabricates something, which is almost always the case, I can spot such a fabrication immediately, or have evidence that it is a fabrication. If you can ever recall where exactly you saw such a reference to my being a commander in the U.S. Navy (wow!! such a status symbol!!), please let me know, as I would like to go there and see how or why such a statement came about, or if it was just a misinterpretation of a sentence, or even a typo, relating to some United States Naval officer that I was referring to, in one of my artices. However, the fact that, after my original challenge to "Mason Simmons" to show where exactly there was such a reference, and no response whatsoever, I feel that it was most definitely a false and fabricated statement by Mason/Gray. Don't forget, all the articles I have at my web pages, at www.tfoenander.com, relate to personnel in the Union and Confederate Navies, and nothing to do with me, so anything mentioned in these articles are all relating to the Civil War personnel. But I certainly would like to know exactly where this was seen. It must surely be a misinterpretation, or nothing at all, that was definitely cooked up by Mason/Gray, to try and create havoc, but which, sadly for him, backfired. However, as we all now know, it was none other than Jim Gray, using an assumed name, Mason Simmons, and under a false e-mail address, obviously opened up for such a scam, and to try and denigrate my name and work. Since Amy has proven, beyond any doubt, that both IP numbers, for Gray's e-mail address, and that of "Mason Simmons" are one and the same, it is fairly obvious that Gray was up to his usual tricks of fabricating and falsifying. Stephanie may be able to check this out further by checking the home computer, to find any references to Mason Simmons, or even by checking their provider services. Furthermore, if anyone wanted to take this as a police matter, no doubt a police investigation would show that Gray used the false name of Mason Simmons to send those messages, one with a racist undertone. Even his group, the ACWRTQ, if they took the trouble, would be able to easily find out the truth. Anyway, Lisa, I do not expect you to take sides at all, but I want you to at least not rely too much on Gray's messages, because, as just about all of us know, he is a compulsive liar. You do not even have to believe me, but if you wish to do so, there is so much evidence, and this can be checked by consulting others, such as Barry Crompton (BCrompton@bigpond.com) who was former president and secretary of the American Civil War Round Table of Australia, or Mrs. Virginia Crocker (crockers2@westnet.com.au), from whose published work much of the material that Gray has at his web sites, was plagiarised, or even well known American Civil War author David M. Sullivan (DSulli7875@aol.com). Even ask Mr. Len Traynor (lentraynor@optusnet.com.au), of Sydney, who is well known in Civil War circles and groups, here and abroad, for his vast knowledge on the Civil War, and from whose collections Gray used a photo at his web sites, without the permission of Mr. Traynor, and when Mr. Traynor questioned Gray about this, he fabricated a story that he had acquired the photo some thirty years ago, locally. Even consult with Ms Amy Hedrick herself, in Georgia, whose web site at ROBERT FARMER FAMILY FROM AUSTRALIA gives a full account, with many, many messages shown, detailing how arrogant and stubborn this Gray is, and how he was passing around an altered military document, and which he used to obtain a grave marker, inappropriately. Thankfully an official investigation by several departments, including the Sons of Confederate Veterans in Georgia, and the Veterans Administration in Washington, found that Gray had obtained this marker inappropriately, and it was immediately returned to Washington to be melted down. But, by then, taxpayers money had already been wasted, as was done in several other cases, involving Gray. There are very many more such persons who can be consulted about what Gray has been up to, even some of his former colleagues in Florida. No doubt Gray may try to contact you, privately, and without including any of the addressees shown above, so that he can offer another spin on his usual round of fabrications, but, if he does, you have the initiative to contact those who can give the unvarnished truth. As I have stated many times before, it is absolutely pointless asking Gray for his own version, as he will never be honest with anyone on earth. He is included in this message, and if he wants to take action for my statements, I welcome such action, because I know that what I have stated is the truth. Only he and he alone has the power to stop all of this, if, as he says, he is sick of it all. So sick to obviously pass around fabricated statements made by me, as well as messages with an undertone of racism, in messages under the false name of Mason Simmons. If he was really that sick of it all, he can start by starting to be honest, and to confessing to all of the inappropriate actions he has been involved in, from his days in Florida forward, and apologising to the many, many persons, all over the Internet, in historical groups and archives all over the world, as well as the many individuals that he has been able to dupe. I can see that this is never going to happen, because a leopard can never change its spots, and I know that, even though I have never met the man, he will never ever be an honest, law abiding citizen of any country. Regards, Terry. From: waitemata@gmail.com Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:13:01 +1300 Subject: Re: Other email To: tfoenander@hotmail.com Hi Terry, Thanks for all that. My position in this is to keep as neutral as possible -- thankfully, I don't really get involved all that much in your field! One thing is bugging me: I remember seeing somewhere on the 'net, way before the Mason Simmons thing, a reference to you in asssociation with the U.S. Navy. The term "commander" was there, but for the life of me, I can't recall where I saw it. I wasn't surprised at the M.S. reference in his/Jim's email, therefore. I remember it, because when I originally saw the reference ages ago, I thought, "Terry's a former commander?" Don't worry, though, might just have been a brain fart on my part. Lisa
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Terry Foenander
<tfoenander@hotmail.com>
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Amy, We all have no doubt whatsoever, that it was Gray himself, posing as Mason Simmons, and passing around those messages. His own incompetence was his undoing, in showing that, despite his denials to several persons, he was indeed none other than Mason Simmons. Everyone who sent me the messages being passed around by this Mason Simmons, a couple of days or so ago, had never heard of this person, and had never even previously received, or sent out messages to, such a person. Some were even asking where "Mason Simmons" had gotten their e-mail address from, but it became obviously clear as being the same person that several of us began to suspect, almost from the first message that he had sent out. Your exposing the culprit within a few short hours of his first message was confirmation of some of our suspicions, and then the final nail in the coffin was the IP number. I wonder what his next tricks, scams or fabrications will be, and I have no doubt it will be something that he will get caught with, once more, because he is too incompetent to do anything, let alone assuming a false identity, right. I am sure that, if he takes up the mantle of attempting to lead an honest and outstanding life, for the first time, he will fail at this, as well!! Regards, Terry. From: amylyn@glynngen.com To: tfoenander@hotmail.com; a.lange@clear.net.nz; asmith@sos.ga.gov; archives@dos.state.fl.us; bqkscv@yahoo.com; bcrompton@bigpond.com; lentraynor@optusnet.com.au; ccave@dos.state.fl.us; coxonmv@bigpond.com; dkirlin@accentamerican.net; dmcm2049@bigpond.net.au; editor@simplyaustralia.net; ghearn@esc.net.au; civilwarjustice@aol.com; sailorette53@gmail.com; dsulli7875@aol.com; emilligan@earthlink.net; jgodl2001@gmail.com; waitemata@gmail.com; historian@avondale.org.nz; kissane.scv@gmail.com; ipx@adam.com.au; jcoski@moc.org; troane@moc.org Subject: Re: Terry Foenander - Commander U.S. Navy - Australian Army - New York Times Researcher Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 00:53:58 -0500
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provider (ISP) has the right to view and monitor EVERYTHING
you do and has the right to terminate your service if they
see you are illegally downloading things (movies, music,
porn), or if you are harassing someone; they can shut off
your internet connection WITHOUT warning.
Everything you do
online is seen by them and can usually be traced by moderate
internet users like myself. My brother is even better at
this stuff. He actually has an IP reader on his MySpace
page (many people do) that when you go to his page, it shows
that I am at the IP 66.147.78.20 and that I'm using Windows
Vista, Internet Explorer 7 and going through NuVox
Communications to use the internet!
And when you trace
that IP it shows exactly where I am sitting right now!
So, Terry, if it ever
came to a court appearance, your lawyers could petition the
ISP where those emails originated, which we know is a
Bigpond server, and they can tell you the exact HOME address
of the computer that sent those emails; no problem.
The IP address from
Gray's email and the one from the Mason Simmons emails are
identical. Which means if it is not Gray himself, it is
someone in his town, most likely as close as his same
neighborhood and not someone in Florida.
And, after all, why
would someone who has NEVER been included in these
discussions all of a sudden send out an email saying they
are tired of the whole thing? Why are they tired of it?
They were never involved in the first place. I don't
remember contacting a Mason Simmons in all my dealings with
Gray or with Mr. Foenander.
Amy Hedrick GlynnGen.com, webmaster http://www.glynngen.com Hedrick & Allied Families http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~amylyn |
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Amy, Thanks for all these. So far, no further response from the culprit, or his alter ego, about all that I have stated, and my showing that even with the grave marker controversy, he still cannot see the pure evidence right in front of his eyes. I am sure that even you could see, in those photos that he sent, that on a couple of the VA markers, the plaques were affixed to the VA markers after their installation, and not before. If so, these VA marker and the conventional marker would have been separate, just like those at several of the graves he and the ACWRTQ have obtained VA markers for. A few of the other markers obtained, in those days, were applied for by the descendants, and not, as Gray assumes (he is good at assuming and fabricating), by the so called "Foenander crew." Gray is obviously, as an MD in the U.S. recently stated, after seeing his scams as "Mason Simmons", obviously very sick, and needs professional help. Regards, Terry. |
| 8th December 2009 |
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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nskntingx05p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.190.142]) by nskntmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091207211338.MUAK93.nskntmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntingx05p.mx.bigpond.com>; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:13:38 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.142]) by nskntingx05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091207211334.PXWH8526.nskntingx05p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com>; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:13:34 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W7 ([65.54.190.189]) by bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:13:32 -0800 Message-ID: <BAY137-W7D72750D2DEA09870B5A8C5900@phx.gbl> Return-Path: tfoenander@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_a2b02a7a-7942-40e9-9b30-fc3c64d7238c_" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.64.121] From: Terry Foenander <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: <amylyn@glynngen.com>, <a.lange@clear.net.nz>, Barry Crompton <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, Len Traynor <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, <civilwarjustice@aol.com>, Caroline Hancock <sailorette53@gmail.com>, Dave Sullivan <dsulli7875@aol.com> CC: <jackford@bigpond.net.au>, <bob-anne@aapt.net.au> Subject: RE: Terry Foenander - Commander U.S. Navy - Australian Army - New York Times Researcher Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:13:33 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <270304917A3E41E89B7F15AC044AEC0D@Laptop> References: <270304917A3E41E89B7F15AC044AEC0D@Laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2009 21:13:32.0728 (UTC) FILETIME=[21A33B80:01CA7782] X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150204.4B1D7002.002B,ss=1,pt=DBB_66871,fgs=0 |
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Amy, I just had a look at the profile for TERRY FOENANDER at the zoominfo web site, and it was obviously created to try and belittle me, and we all have no doubt about who could have created such a profile. The fool who did it does not realise that I am not a registered member of zoominfo, so the Administrators can surely identify who created the profile, also, I guess, through the e-mail IP address, even if the rogue used a false name, or even my name to create the profile. This rogue does not realise who much deeper he is digging his own grave. Everyone who knows me knows that I would never try and identify myself with false profiles or other false details, unlike those who try to assume that they had a thirty year association with the Florida Archives, or who try to claim that their great great grandfather was William Cameron, or who pass around fake documents. Stupidly, the person who created this false profile does not realise that the deeper he digs his grave, the more it becomes a police matter, that would need investigating. If caught, hopefully he will be kicked out of the country. Regards, Terry. |
| 12th December 2009 |
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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nschwingx05p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.190.25]) by nschwmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091207231707.DPMW2264.nschwmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwingx05p.mx.bigpond.com>; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:17:07 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.25]) by nschwingx05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091207231706.WJBH23690.nschwingx05p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com>; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:17:06 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W21 ([65.54.190.61]) by bay0-omc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:17:05 -0800 Message-ID: <BAY137-W21B7B974040CEF7FBD8CC5C5900@phx.gbl> Return-Path: tfoenander@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1b1c6c5e-2d79-4136-8f81-ea54d5da493c_" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.94.68] From: Terry Foenander <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: <glynnhistory@yahoo.com>, Virginia Crocker <crockers2@westnet.com.au>, Len Traynor <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, Barry Crompton <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, Jeff Yuille <darleith@optusnet.com.au>, Dave Sullivan <dsulli7875@aol.com>, michael hammerson <michael@midsummer.demon.co.uk>, Edward Milligan <emilligan@earthlink.net>, <civilwarjustice@aol.com> Subject: False data sent by Simmons/Gray. Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:17:05 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <701465.35757.qm@web51305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <701465.35757.qm@web51305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2009 23:17:05.0870 (UTC) FILETIME=[6436EEE0:01CA7793] X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150201.4B1D8CF3.0085,ss=1,fgs=0 |
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As just about everyone has pointed out to me, the web
site, ZOOM INFO, where Simmons/Gray got the false data from also
includes false data on others, and that anyone who relies on this is
obviously incompetent. However, the main point that I want to make
is that I am definitely not a member of ZOOM INFO, and did not put
any of the details shown there myself. Also, as can clearly be
seen by the appended message originally sent out by the now fully
identified "Mason Simmons" (aka James Mason Gray), he states, and I
quote
"it appears that he is not an
Australian but an Asian and on one of his websites states that he
was a commander in the US Navy." At no point,
anywhere on any of my web sites,
or on the Internet, do I, personally, and I repeat, nowhere do I,
personally, make such a claim. It is a false representation,
created either with malicious intent, or else created from someone
else's interpretation of my pages. The Asian reference shows clearly that Mason Gray is still living in pre-Civil War days, and is intended to try and stir up feelings against me, which, happily, has backfired. He makes no mention, however, of the fact that my knowledge of the Civil War appears to be much more competent than anything that he has ever done. Unlike Mason/Gray, I have never put up anything boastful, or false accreditations (e.g. having a 30 year association with the Florida Archives, or being the founder of the Florida HIstorical Research Foundation, etc., etc., etc.), and do not need to. I prefer others to judge my work from what I show online, and the research I do, which sometimes helps to pick apart those I consider to be frauds. Regards, Terry. |
| 12th December 2009 |
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Return-Path: <tfoenander@hotmail.com> Received: from nskntingx06p.mx.bigpond.com ([65.54.190.163]) by nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091208081831.BSHG10503.nskntmtas01p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntingx06p.mx.bigpond.com>; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:18:31 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.163]) by nskntingx06p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20091208081828.MNAT5015.nskntingx06p.mx.bigpond.com@bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com>; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:18:28 +0000 Received: from BAY137-W26 ([65.54.190.189]) by bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:18:26 -0800 Message-ID: <BAY137-W266F34934A75127B359826C58F0@phx.gbl> Return-Path: tfoenander@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_28c89b6b-1522-4323-964c-bcd0d68cb50e_" X-Originating-IP: [210.49.94.68] From: Terry Foenander <tfoenander@hotmail.com> To: <amylyn@glynngen.com>, <jamesmgray@bigpond.com>, Barry Crompton <bcrompton@bigpond.com>, Len Traynor <lentraynor@optusnet.com.au>, <civilwarjustice@aol.com>, Caroline Hancock <sailorette53@gmail.com>, Dave Sullivan <dsulli7875@aol.com>, Virginia Crocker <crockers2@westnet.com.au>, <rossbrooks@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au> CC: <jackford@bigpond.net.au>, <bob-anne@aapt.net.au> Subject: RE: Terry Foenander - Commander U.S. Navy - Australian Army - New York Times Researcher Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:18:27 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <270304917A3E41E89B7F15AC044AEC0D@Laptop> References: <270304917A3E41E89B7F15AC044AEC0D@Laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2009 08:18:26.0893 (UTC) FILETIME=[0469B7D0:01CA77DF] X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150203.4B1E0BD7.004C,ss=1,fgs=0 |
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Jeff, Thanks for your support, but I honestly doubt you will hear the truth from Gray, or change his ways, despite all the overwhelming evidence already shown, that Jim Gray and Mason Simmons were one and the same. It is now up to Yahoo, who have the messages sent, and the e-mail addresses, IP numbers, and Ms Amy Hedrick's own investigative research results. "Mason Simmons", as you will note in his original messages, indicated that he was from Florida, yet a check of the IP details by Ms Hedrick proved that was not true at all, and that the messages were coming out of Brisbane. We all know that there is only one person in Brisbane who fabricates and falsifies, and there can be absolutely no doubt whatsoever, who it is. As well, the Zoom Info web details showing me as being a "Commander" in the U.S. Navy can be clearly seen, by all others who have knowledge of those sort of web sites, that it is not my own claim, but placed there by someone else, either with malicious intent, or else by someone ignorant of the facts. Simmons/Gray originally claimed that the false statements were shown at my web site, but was unable to show exactly where, in all of my web sites, such false statements were made. And everyone of my research colleagues know that I would never make such false statements about myself, and just about all of them know I was born in Singapore, as was clearly shown at my Geocities web page. Besides, I don't need to create false and fabricated, as well as boastful accounts of myself, unlike a person we all know of, who constantly makes false declarations about himself, and creates false accreditations. He will never change, and no matter how much we try to get some honest statements from him, I am afraid to say that we are relying too much on fantasy. Regards, Terry. > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:03:57 +1100 > From: darleith@optusnet.com.au > To: > Subject: NO RACISM IN AUSTRALIA or any where else for that matter > > Asian, Australian, American, what does it matter where excellent > individual research comes from? Jim are you a racist or something.? > > Jeff Yuille |
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Dear Mr. Yuille,
Would you kindly note that this email address is
not that of Jim Gray but to respond to your comment - no race
does not matter as Jim's
son "Mason" - yes another Mason! has a partner
who is Asian and a granddaughter that is Asian American so it is
unfair to presume that he is a racist.
If you would care to follow this link you will
see both of Jim's sons on his bio.
http://www.acwv.info/kresearcher-jim.htm.
I implore you Mr. Yuille not to forward my email
on to all and sundry, I personally have absolutely zero interest
in the American Civil War and/or any war for that matter and to
do so would only encourage Mr. Foenander to attack me again and
I truly cannot cope with the stress.
I would appreciate your co-operation in this
regard.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Stephanie Gray
Wife of Jim.
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:03:57 +1100
> From: darleith@optusnet.com.au > To: > Subject: NO RACISM IN AUSTRALIA or any where else for that matter > > Asian, Australian, American, what does it matter where excellent > individual research comes from? Jim are you a racist or something.? > > Jeff Yuille |
| 28th. September 2009 |
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----- Original Message -----
From:
Terry Foenander
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: Another fake document.
Here are a couple of other documents that Gray has boastfully been passing around, but if you examine both documents closely, you will note that at least one of them is not a genuine article. We have tried to contact the groups shown on the documents to verify these items, but, unfortunately, at least one of them no longer exists. Meanwhile we will continue to authenticate the items shown. It is obvious that more fakes are being passed around. Together with the fact that "Brett Stevens" is attemting to gather data researched by others, it goes to show the fabrications that will continue for a long, long time. Regards, Terry. P.S. His usual strategy, when confronted with such evidence, is to send messages to everyone attempting to condemn me as a liar and arrogant, etc., but I urge you to check out all documentation and the facts, to verify the situation. THe proof is in the pudding. |
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